Live data from Hacker News

NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

science.org

781–790 of 877 posts

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#781
Isn’t this what everyone voted for?

I assume this is just more of the same neo-liberalists’ Heritage Foundation at play here. No one is saying science shouldn’t science. Just that the government shouldn’t be in the business of funding it.

How else will Elon Musk make his next billion if he doesn’t get to invest in your research and sell it off after your 2 year time is up?

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#782

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The focus is robbing the treasury to give tax breaks to the rich.

Trump said yesterday he wants to raise taxes on people earning over $2.5MM[1] People on the left are going to be caught totally flat-footed if they don't pull their head out of their bubble. Trump is a populist president. He was elected by working class individuals and so far he has shown every intent of following through for them. People on the left don't recognize it because they don't recognize the tools that righ…

He is a billionaire himself, his admin has the most billionaires of any admin ever. He passed tariffs, which are a direct tax on the working class, he passed massuve tax cuts profiting mostly the wealthy, he cut every welfare programs which only benefit the poor.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#784

The NSF budget is ~$10billion. That's about half of NASA's, 1.2% of the DoD's, 0.5% of the discretionary budget ($1.7 trillion). Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money. More seriously, the NSF isn't the focus of the admin. They're going through every federal agency making cuts, not singling out this one in particular.

What about the Pentagon? Didn't they want to give it an additional trillion?

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#785

The NSF budget is ~$10billion. That's about half of NASA's, 1.2% of the DoD's, 0.5% of the discretionary budget ($1.7 trillion). Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

Trump has been compromised, who ever is actually running the show is hell bent on destroying the US.

[deleted]

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#786

The NSF budget is ~$10billion. That's about half of NASA's, 1.2% of the DoD's, 0.5% of the discretionary budget ($1.7 trillion). Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

There are very few places an administration can cut costs without touching entitlements. Until voters stop punishing politicians for raising the retirement age or trimming wasteful healthcare spending, they will cut the discretionary budget.

Then what about the additional trillion dollars awarded to the Pentagon?? Did this come for free?

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#787

[flagged]

In my opinion, this was decades in the making. Most Americans are sick of the two party system that can't seem to get anything done, as well as with a political system owned by the elite. As odd and bizarre as it is, Trump was able to channel that disgruntlement into a voting bloc. And it certainly doesn't help that the Democratic party has been unable to put forth a charismatic candidate since President Obama.

[flagged]

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#789
post #697

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They’ve been doing nothing for decades. Here's a list of the 250+ pieces of nothing that the 118th Congress passed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acts_of_the_118th_Un... If you're going to reach for hyperbole, at least make it defensible.

The Wikipedia article you link states: > It has been called one of the least productive Congresses since 1951 Let’s not measure productivity in terms of count of bills passed like measuring output by lines of code. Healthcare reform, SS reform, fiscal sustainability, electoral reform, climate, immigration, information environment, cybersecurity, how many of these pressing issues have been tackled and solved by congre…

If "nothing for decades" isn't true, then parent can use different words.

"Least productive" != "nothing"

If language collapses into describing a different reality just because of the way someone feels, then communicating is going to be difficult.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

#790

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'm a working class person without much in the way of assets, what does preparing even mean here?

From the personal safety viewpoint, the single best thing you can do as an American today is leave the country. Being working class without much in the way of assets precludes the more lucrative destinations, but there are still many countries out there that are pretty easy to emigrate to, even if quality of life there is lower than what US can offer today.

And where do you go to? Have a look around, most of this planet is screwed up at this point beyond repair.
Post reply on HN