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How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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You can disagree with Trump as much as you want. There is an executive order signed by the President. None of those Reuters and the like explanations matter. Given the executive order is in place, it doesn’t matter who signed it. Since it’s coming from the White House, it’s perfectly valid to reference it.

Executive Orders are not law.

Yet they can be referenced as the official position of the government.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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There is a whole book written on the corrosive nature of the Israeli lobby on US foreign policy by Stephen Walt and John J. Mearsheimer. A shorter working paper version of it is . "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy." KSG Faculty Research Working Paper Series RWP06-011, March 2006. As for Adelson, just look up her Wikipedia... she owns Israel Hayom, Israel's largest newspaper, and is a major supporter of curren…

Mein camp is a all book also She is a Jew. There are much more Muslims running around with connections to other Muslims countries and businessness and you don't go around and calling it the Muslims kabal on every move any Muslim does. As I said, the fact the your post is not yet flagged is the biggest indicator to the coming collapse. You are an antisemite, despite your lack of understanding of it.

This is a common misunderstanding. Speaking against the current violent regime in Israel is anti-zionism and not anti-semitism.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Presidents can't declare war, so no, the US is not at war in either a technical legal sense nor in a practical sense. It's also not "an invasion" as per the Alien Enemies Act as clearly, Tren de Agua is not a government or a nation.

Ukraine is not at war with Russia. Russia is not at war with Ukraine. Yet, Ukraine drafts its men like rats. But wait - I can’t reference information shared by the White House because it’s all BS? Look, I’m not saying an executive order is a law, but it’s also not a sticky note. And let’s be honest, a ton of illegals have been coming to the U.S. Trump’s executive order didn’t come out of thin air.

I'm sorry it seems you're just not aware of how laws work.

Ukraine has different laws than the US. Under Ukrainian law, drafts are legal in their current situation. Under American law, deporting people without due process is not legal in our current situation. In fact, even if the US were at war where an invocation of the Alien Enemies Act made sense, even then people are owed individualized due process before deportation to ascertain whether they are in fact an Alien Enemy.

Of course you can reference information shared by the White House, but there's a difference between referencing it and asserting that it has legal authority that it doesn't have under our legal system.

In our legal system, the White House's memos cannot overrule people's Constitutional protections, even if they're attempting to solve an actual problem. The "out of thin air"edness of the EO is irrelevant to its legal authority.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Executive Orders are not law.

Yet they can be referenced as the official position of the government.

The official position of one branch of our tripartite government.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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This is a brilliant article because it is summarising how bad it is. They don't want you to know how bad! Lots of paper cuts and hopefully no one sees the amputation. We need one on attack on working class including all the loss of services esp. education and inflation caused by tariffs.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/03/donald-trump-new... Everyone should at least watch this video. Taken in America. "Land of the free." That this is only one of many such videos is terrifying if you know the history of fascist regimes. I hope everyone here is familiar with the "first they came for the communists..." poem.

Direct link to video for those who hit the Slate paywall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuFIs7OkzYY

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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It's been under attack a lot longer than the current administration. "free-speech does not mean freedom from consequences", "free speech does not apply to hate-speech", "we must suppress and limit the spread of misinformation", It really seems that people do not believe in free speech anymore, and only appeal to it as a principle to defend themselves, never to defend those they disagree with.

> "free-speech does not mean freedom from consequences" This is a actually a slogan in support of free speech. Of course people are allowed to say transphobic things online or downtown, but that would surely make some of their coworkers uncomfortable and that's pretty disqualifying from most employment. You're allowed to say things, but colleagues are allowed to respond in kind within the law.

Not it is not and it is also contradicting the definition of freedom of speech, first sentence:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

"Consequences" are to be understood as sanctions or censorship, or does it mean something different to you? Then please elaborate.

Doesn't make a popular XKCD wrong, but it makes some ideas rather stupid.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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It's all pretty cooked. It's honestly stunning to see how these cult-like followers have allowed themselves to be completely oblivious to what's going on. From an outsiders perspective, it's wild. But at the same time, there were many warnings.

I think it's a mistake to think people are just oblivious. It's not a majority but there are actually a lot of people aware of these things and celebrating them. One thing I don't see mentioned a lot but Trump has made being a victim a fairly central part of his politics (him thinking all elections are rigged against him is a simple example of this) so this all makes sense as a sort of retribution. You can see the re…

> One thing I don't see mentioned a lot but Trump has made being a victim a fairly central part of his politics (him thinking all elections are rigged against him is a simple example of this) so this all makes sense as a sort of retribution.

Imagined victimhood and a persecution complex are core, foundational pillars of MAGA. The whole movement is about how they are all the victims of the elite, persecuted by the media, harassed for their beliefs, and that the whole world is against them. Then, the minute they got power, their first priority was griefing others and cruelty to all of their favorite out-groups. There really is nothing more to it than pretend victimhood, leading to retribution.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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I understand why these things have to be posted, but I would be lying if I said that I wasn't utterly exhausted by the constant shit that the Trump administration is spitting at us. I mean, I get it, bad shit needs to be reported on, the Trump admin does a lot of bad shit, it makes sense, but it's just extremely tiring. I know that's kind of the point, to bombard us with all this shit all at once so that we are exhau…

> I understand why these things have to be posted, but I would be lying if I said that I wasn't utterly exhausted by the constant shit that the Trump administration is spitting at us. From 2017: * https://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2017/3/7/14844120/how-to-fight... The firehouse is also a deliberate strategy: > The firehose of falsehood, also known as firehosing, is a propaganda technique in which a large number of messag…

Think in Bayesian terms. If you update your priors at all when the lie comes, then the firehose will overwhelm you, because the lie (or a similar, related lie) comes so often. If you update at all, then you wind up believing it.

But the only defense is to not update your priors. That means that you don't update on things that are actually true, either.

This is basically the death of epistemology. How do you know, and how do you know you know? It's no longer possible in this environment.

Postmodernism talked about a post-truth world. Putin has made it a reality.

Re: How each pillar of the First Amendment is under attack

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ukraine is not at war with Russia. Russia is not at war with Ukraine. Yet, Ukraine drafts its men like rats. But wait - I can’t reference information shared by the White House because it’s all BS? Look, I’m not saying an executive order is a law, but it’s also not a sticky note. And let’s be honest, a ton of illegals have been coming to the U.S. Trump’s executive order didn’t come out of thin air.

I'm sorry it seems you're just not aware of how laws work. Ukraine has different laws than the US. Under Ukrainian law, drafts are legal in their current situation. Under American law, deporting people without due process is not legal in our current situation. In fact, even if the US were at war where an invocation of the Alien Enemies Act made sense, even then people are owed individualized due process before deport…

I never said Ukraine is doing anything illegal (although the legality of literally dragging people into a military car might be something to question). See my very first comment. Watch the video on Slate, then watch the videos I shared. Looks like many people on HN are getting triggered when you mention the inhumane treatment of Ukrainian men by Ukraine.
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