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Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by nickff »

shakna wrote: post #750
macrocosmos wrote: post #665

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You state that as if it is fact despite there being no evidence to support that viewpoint.

Is not the EU's regulations largely successful? Some have underestimated maliscious compliance, but for most.

It depends on how you define success; the EU has certainly managed to achieve a great deal of standardization and compliance, at the cost of rate of progress and business model innovation. You might think this is a worthwhile trade off, but people differ in their priorities.

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Post by seba_dos1 »

julianozen wrote: post #746
meatmanek wrote: post #475

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The term PWA may not have been coined until 2015, but you could definitely save a webpage to your home screen on i(Pad)OS at least as early as 2010. Granted, it was pretty limited, but you could put an icon on your screen, have it open a web view that was somewhat separate from Safari, store data with localstorage, and generally look and feel kinda mostly like a native app.

i think this mightve been as early as 2008 even

2007 in fact, as this was the only way to write "apps" for the original iPhone.

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Post by bobsmooth »

kevincox wrote: post #458
CharlesW wrote: post #50

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It's because your headphones were sending a Bluetooth "Play" command on connect (my Honda Odyssey does this as well). For anyone else with this problem, you can override this silly default in macOS using Privacy & Security > Bluetooth, adding Music, then turning off Bluetooth access for Music.

That is maybe questionable behaviour from the headphones. But the worse problem is that there is no way to change what media player is used. I don't use Apple Music, have no songs in it and no subscription. But it opens that rather than the player I do use. I'm pretty sure I have also launched Apple Music accidentally with some keyboard button or touchbar action. For a "premium" device having to close Apple Music (ef…

Microsoft changing default programs with an update is a violation of privacy but at least it's easy to change.

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Post by michaelsshaw »

I genuinely don't see a reason to use apple products, particularly professionally, other than developing slop for Apple consumers

Their absolute lockdown nature simply makes them inferior devices, and sorry but, any excuse for non-free general purpose computers and (esp.)phones is seriously asinine.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Post by rowanG077 »

FabHK wrote: post #773
smaudet wrote: post #718

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As a user, I'm not certain I completely agree. Yes, I don't want apps accessing my messages surreptitiously. Points there. However, what's wrong with allowing another app to post messages to my messages? If I don't want it, let me turn them off. Maybe, as a UI expert company, it's easy "block app from sending me messages" when I get a message. Seems like something that should be fairly transparent to the (potentially…

> what's wrong with allowing another app to post messages to my messages? That's exactly what spammers would use to send spam.

Why did you choose to ignore the very next statement in their post, that ensures it cannot be spammed? Doesn't seem like you are arguing in good faith here.

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Post by that_guy_iain »

frollogaston wrote: post #613
that_guy_iain wrote: post #586

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It all depends on what you're doing. For many on here, Macs are technically worse because they use docker and that means instead of just running docker and using the container functionality in the Linux kernel they have to virtualise a Linux VM to run docker in. If you're gaming it's not as good as Windows. Macs are ok, they do the job and in some areas they are better. But really, for most it doesn't matter, it's al…

Docker is fine on Mac but still a small sliver of user base, and nobody is buying a Mac to play games. For all those other general uses, they're better, that's why they buy them. Battery lasts long, fan doesn't spin up, you don't get harassed by Windows, you don't deal with Linux Bluetooth drivers. Not for style. Apple Watch for style, sure. It's a watch after all. Not that it actually looks good.

Docker is slow on Macs. That’s why there are multiple packages to try and solve it. And still it’s slow. And that is a massive amount of people.

Plenty of people play games on Macs. It may not be the purpose they bought it does they bought it for general use and that’s part of the general use for many.

For general uses they aren’t better. They cost more. You’re unable to upgrade them. They have less ports and require dongles. The list goes on.

I’ve not had any issues with Linux Bluetooth drivers is so long I can’t even remember when.

You may buy macs now because you’re used to them and you think they’re better. But really you got into macs because of the brand. Because there are very few areas where it is truly better than the others.

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Post by pyrale »

vessenes wrote: post #101

I guess I’ll take the contra here on messages integration — moving a message over BLE to untrusted hardware and worse accepting them back into iMessage is a massive, massive change in the security boundary and therefore security architecture and therefore security promises that apple makes on iMessage. I do not believe average smartwatch users understand what they’d be doing if they got this. I do not believe vendors…

The idea that device pairing can and must only be secured at hardware level is a fallacy whose goal is to ensure that only apple products work well with apple products.

For the spam example, nothing prevents apple from offering a ble api with auth that ensures that only devices manually paired by the user access it.

As for automating spam... when we’re discussing ble, we’re talking about a device a few meters away from your phone. What are spammers going to do, send a jogger right behind you that spams you after somehow hacking apple’s auth system?!

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Post by pyrale »

FabHK wrote: post #773
smaudet wrote: post #718

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a user, I'm not certain I completely agree. Yes, I don't want apps accessing my messages surreptitiously. Points there. However, what's wrong with allowing another app to post messages to my messages? If I don't want it, let me turn them off. Maybe, as a UI expert company, it's easy "block app from sending me messages" when I get a message. Seems like something that should be fairly transparent to the (potentially…

> what's wrong with allowing another app to post messages to my messages? That's exactly what spammers would use to send spam.

Spammers sending spam through ble ?!

They might just as well beat you up and take your wallet.

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