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Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by mayoosh »

zaptrem wrote: post #26

GPT 4.5 pricing is insane: Price Input: $75.00 / 1M tokens Cached input: $37.50 / 1M tokens Output: $150.00 / 1M tokens GPT 4o pricing for comparison: Price Input: $2.50 / 1M tokens Cached input: $1.25 / 1M tokens Output: $10.00 / 1M tokens It sounds like it's so expensive and the difference in usefulness is so lacking(?) they're not even gonna keep serving it in the API for long: > GPT‑4.5 is a very large and comput…

It's also not clear what the definite use case is for this versus other models like o3.

Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by darthrupert »

Here's a reminder that an European alternative exists: https://chat.mistral.ai

It lags somewhat behind the US offerings, but a great way to fix that is to direct some money at them. Also, as things progress, that lagging starts being less and less important.

Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by world2vec »

swyx wrote: post #739
harlanlewis wrote: post #53

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The price really is eye watering. At a glance, my first impression is this is something like Llama 3.1 405B, where the primary value may be realized in generating high quality synthetic data for training rather than direct use. I keep a little google spreadsheet with some charts to help visualize the landscape at a glance in terms of capability/price/throughput, bringing in the various index scores as they become ava…

> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1foc98Jtbi0-GUsNySddv ... how do you do the different size circles and colored sequences like that? this is god tier skills

Bubble charts?

Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by tkgally »

sebastiennight wrote: post #705
tkgally wrote: post #276

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How does the following stand-up routine by Claude 3.7 Sonnet work for you? https://gally.net/temp/20250225claudestandup2.html

That was impressive. If it all came from just this short 4-line prompt, it's even more impressive. All we're missing now is a text-to-video (or text+audio and then audio-to-video) that can convincingly follow the style instructions for emphasis and pausing. Or are we already there yet?

Yes, that was the full prompt.

Yesterday, I had Claude 3.7 write a full 80,000-word novel. My prompt was a bit longer, but the result was shockingly good. The new thinking mode is very impressive.

Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by Hammershaft »

jodrellblank wrote: post #196
swatcoder wrote: post #57

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> We look forward to learning more about its strengths, capabilities, and potential applications in real-world settings. If GPT‑4.5 delivers unique value for your use case, your feedback (opens in a new window) will play an important role in guiding our decision. "We don't really know what this is good for, but spent a lot of money and time making it and are under intense pressure to announce new things right now. If…

> "Early testing shows that interacting with GPT‑4.5 feels more natural. Its broader knowledge base, improved ability to follow user intent, and greater “EQ” make it useful for tasks like improving writing, programming, and solving practical problems. We also expect it to hallucinate less." "Early testing doesn't show that it hallucinates less, but we expect that putting that sentence nearby will lead you to draw a c…

What is happening to hacker news? I can understand skepticism of new tools like this but the response I see is just so uncurious.

Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by arresin »

joshuamcginnis wrote: post #82

I'm one week in on heavy grok usage. I didn't think I'd say this, but for personal use, I'm considering cancelling my OpenAI plan. The one thing I wish grok had was more separation of the UI from X itself. The interface being so coupled to X puts me off and makes it feel like a second-hand citizen. I like ChatGPTs minimalist UI.

They still haven’t released an API for 3

Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by Jensson »

jtwaleson wrote: post #676
dingnuts wrote: post #586

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what crazy progress? how much do you spend on tokens every month to witness the crazy progress that I'm not seeing? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. The progress is linear at best

Large parts of my coding are now done by Claude/Cursor. I give it high level tasks and it just does it. It is honestly incredible, and if I would have see this 2 years ago I wouldn't have believed it.

That started long before ChatGPT though, so you need to set an earlier date then. ChatGPT came about 3 years after GPT-3, the coding assistants came much earlier than ChatGPT.

Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by tinco »

ethbr1 wrote: post #591
phs318u wrote: post #507

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Yes, an AI that can convincingly and successfully sell itself at those prices would be worthy of some attention.

It's nice to know the new Turing test is generating effective VC pitch decks.

Joke's on us, the VC's are using LLM's to evaluate the pitch decks.

Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by logicallee »

UrineSqueegee wrote: post #779
logicallee wrote: post #265

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>It couldn't write a simple rename function for me yesterday, still buggy after seven attempts. I'm surprised and a bit nervous about that. We intend to bootstrap a large project with it!! Both ChatGPT 4o (fast) and ChatGPT o1 (a bit slower, deeper thinking) should easily be able to do this without fail. Where did it go wrong? Could you please link to your chat? About my project: I run the sovereign State of Utopia (…

with 4.5? Why? It's only meant for creative writing.

No, we used o1.

Re: GPT-4.5

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Post by munksbeer »

simonw wrote: post #342

I got gpt-4.5-preview to summarize this discussion thread so far (at 324 comments): hn-summary.sh 43197872 -m gpt-4.5-preview Using this script: https://til.simonwillison.net/llms/claude-hacker-news-themes... Here's the result: https://gist.github.com/simonw/5e9f5e94ac8840f698c280293d399... It took 25797 input tokens and 1225 input tokens, for a total cost (calculated using https://tools.simonwillison.net/llm-prices…

As expected, comments on LLM threads are overwhelmingly negative.

Personally, I still feel excited to see boundaries being pushed, however incremental our anecdotal opinions make them seem.

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