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FYI, the map looks horrendous for democrats after the 2030 census. Estimates give Texas +4, Florida +3, and various other southern states +1 for a total of +12 on solid red states.

Is this just because people are moving out of California to other states? If so, maybe California needs to change its brand of politics to have a higher retention rate.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#783
It always amazes me that a country that cares so much about being the 'best', cares so little about what people think of them.

Voting in this guy, and his policies reduces the legitimacy of the US. If Trump withdraws from Nato, then members may not pay so much to US for weapons any more. Protection money only works while you get Protection. Maybe the Visa and Mastercard tribute taxes we all pay back to the US will be less welcome.

Maybe, in the new protectionist world, tax dodging US tech companies will be less welcome too.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#784

FYI, the map looks horrendous for democrats after the 2030 census. Estimates give Texas +4, Florida +3, and various other southern states +1 for a total of +12 on solid red states.

I like the long-term thinking, but what about other trends? Texas was quietly (it seems to me) getting less red up until this election. America is getting more diverse and more educated, and Boomers are slowly dying off while younger people have been overwhelmingly against Trumpism. So shouldn't the Trump / Republican base start shrinking? Maybe e.g. Texas +4 isn't necessarily horrendous for Democrats.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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post #447

“It’s the economy, stupid” has never been truer. People will trade their rights for more basic needs being fulfilled and most people simply aren’t happy with the one sided economy that has prevailed since the late 80s. Interest rates were too low for too long beginning circa 2000, and the massive flood of QE led to an explosion in house prices, car prices, and food. This is what the world gets for poor monetary and f…

Regardless of the causes, Harris should have acknowledged that things have been bad for a lot of people, and presented a plan for how to make it better.

Instead, she insisted the economy was doing great, and the millions of people whose wages have not risen enough to offset inflation just didn't know what they were talking about.

The economy has been doing great for some people, but not for the voters who ended up mattering to the election outcome.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#786

Is there some analysis why the polls didn't correctly predict the result? A failure in representative polls like this should be avoided with statistical methods.

The polls did pretty well this election. They underestimated Trump, but by less than previously. Polls pretty overwhelmingly showed a 50/50 race in every swing state but those odds were always correlated since they're not independent events

People are looking at the popular vote and freaking out but lets not forget that there's still 7 million left to count in California and it's expected to net Harris almost 3 million votes

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#787

It's the economy, stupid: -Inflation is not prices; it is the rate of change in prices. Low inflation doesn't imply low prices. -Aggregate statistics don't necessarily explain individual outcomes. The Dems failed on this count massively, and have, for maybe the last 40 years, which is about the amount of time it took for my state to go from national bellwether (As goes Ohio, so goes the nation) to a reliably red stat…

Can I ask, what do you think is likely to happen to inflation when you slap tariffs on imports?

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#788
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How did polls go so wrong? “gold standard” Ann Selzer predicted +3 Harris in Iowa and it became +14 Trump. That’s an incredible miss from a pollster.

The polls, in aggregate, were fairly accurate: 50/50 chance for the most part. The Selzer Iowa poll felt like false hope to me immediately.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#789

It's the economy, stupid: -Inflation is not prices; it is the rate of change in prices. Low inflation doesn't imply low prices. -Aggregate statistics don't necessarily explain individual outcomes. The Dems failed on this count massively, and have, for maybe the last 40 years, which is about the amount of time it took for my state to go from national bellwether (As goes Ohio, so goes the nation) to a reliably red stat…

I think people keep saying crap like this: Prices can absolutely come down without killing the economy. It's done by doing smart things that republicans were making talking points:

* Drill for oil, lower the price of gas, prices at the store come down.

* Stop the wars that make for unstable access for gas.

* Create pipelines so that instead of "flaring" Natural gas, we transport it cheaply to be used for electricity generation

* Change the tariff structure so that American goods are worth something against Chinese imports that raises the value of the dollar which lowers the cost of goods

* Stop the insane energy policies that raise gas prices by 45 cents per gallon (in CA for example) for 0.0001% change in climate

NONE of these were democrat talking points.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

#790

It's interesting how bad the democrats seem to be at the game of winning elections. They continuously seem to pick bad candidates and poor strategies resulting in them losing the election when they seem to have had the general conditions for winning. This time, the elephant in the room is of course the late ousting of Joe Biden, but there were similar issues that (in hindsight at least) were obvious in the Clinton 20…

My impression is that the current-day Dem's are, in "actions speak louder than words" terms, simply not all that interested in winning elections. Stuff like not bothering to do even the most basic of opposition research on George Santos ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Santos ). Not carefully checking that Biden's marbles were all still there 12+ months before the election. Their slow and half-hearted (at best) response to the RealPage ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealPage ) rent-jacking scandal. Etc., etc.
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