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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by casenmgreen »

FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

> IIncredible amount of negativity here.

It's FB. They're not popular. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, because I expect it will be absolutely stuffed with user surveillance.

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Post by jjulius »

Kiro wrote: post #650
jjulius wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>... and says a lot about the audience here that you're all oblivious to this fact. What does it say beyond, "This person doesn't pay attention to high fashion", and why does it feel like you're judging people for that? Who cares if people aren't into it? To my mind, your comment says a lot more about you than what ignorance to high fashion says about others.

It's obviously fine not to be into fashion, but if you're not, you shouldn't go around making judgment calls or confidently and incorrectly saying people wouldn't wear something for fashion reasons. It’s revealing in the sense that it shows how narrow-minded we can be, judging everything based on our own perspective and assuming it applies to everyone.

All OP said was that they found them goofy looking. Whether or not you're into high fashion doesn't change the fact that taste is entirely subjective and everyone who finds them too thick, or goofy looking, is more than welcome to that opinion. Doesn't make them out of touch or narrow minded at all.

And please, look at all of Meta's own comments on the size of this prototype - it's obvious that the size isn't because it's "in" in high fashion, but because that's the smallest they could reasonably get it.

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Post by keiferski »

ang_cire wrote: post #727
keiferski wrote: post #614

It seems like a crazy thing to say, but the phone/tablet format is actually not very natural. It is more natural than the previous generation of computers that require being stationary and using a complicated keyboard, sure. But holding a device in your hand and staring at it isn’t really the optimal way of using technology. Which is a long way of saying that even if this generation of AR devices don’t take off, they…

You've actually got it backwards. There's a reason that mice and keyboards are faster and more accurate than touchscreens, and it's that there is a physical+visual feedback occurring that our brains are used to processing when handling other physical objects. Touchscreens have no haptic component (or they have a vibration that is disconnected from the action that you're actually doing on the screen), so you're relyin…

Keyboards may be more efficient, but do you see people using blackberries today? If your theory was correct, we wouldn’t all be using touchscreens.

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Post by tim333 »

ravenstine wrote: post #771
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

I agree, though it's hard not to be negative. My first thought after "oh cool" was "how long until this thing languishes and gets discontinued?" The recent history of AR devices doesn't exactly do Meta a service.

They've been pretty consistent with the Meta Quest things.

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Post by brtkdotse »

FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

> next consumer electronics platform

I really hope this isn’t the case. We have enough screens around us as is, the last thing I want is screens pressed up against my eyeballs

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Post by jimmySixDOF »

bensandcastle wrote: post #543

Having built similar tech (Meta, YC S13), it's been a great year with Vision Pro, Orion, Spectacles and more coming out. Currently at my co, seeing most day to day use out of XReal, and keen for Visor. AR/XR/MR/VR app I'm most looking forward to is a 360 location share with the sharing user in AR, and the receiving user in VR, with additional virtual objects shared between. Orion would be great for the send side, wit…

I remember Meta (your old Meta not the new Zuck's Meta) had an amazing section of the site where you could submit and see sort of like Kickstarter proposals for use cases and I always wondered where all that creative devkit type passion went. Probably on a couple hard drives in a lockup.

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Post by short_sells_poo »

FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

I think the hardware and idea is great. But I simply can't ignore the fact that it is made by Facebook, which is basically the posterchild for modern addiction optimizer adtech business.

The last company I'd want to put right in front of my eyeballs for any extended periods of time is Facebook.

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Post by ActionHank »

FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

"negativity" or people who are stating their perspective on a product.

Was there a lot of engineering, novel problem solving, and even new invention? Yes.

Does that matter to customers if it comes together in a product that they don't feel is good enough? No.

For a site focused on tech and startups there is an awful lot of whiteknighting for companies who should know and do better.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

brtkdotse wrote: post #786
FL33TW00D wrote: post #768

Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

> next consumer electronics platform I really hope this isn’t the case. We have enough screens around us as is, the last thing I want is screens pressed up against my eyeballs

it's not really a matter of if at this point, it's a when... it's the peak of screen technology that we've been hurtling towards for nearly 100 years
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