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Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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Yes, but they won't do that. Possibly because extensive copyright violation in the training data that they're not legally allowed to share.

If somebody would leak the training data and they would deny that it’s real ergo not getting sued and the data would be available. Edit typo.

It's not available if you can't use it because you don't have as many lawyers as facebook and can't ignore laws so easily.

Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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They're trajectory is so close to AOL's it's almost implausible. Their cash cow flagship product is widely panned by tech insiders as abusive, manipulative, and toxic but they also place significant financial resources in high quality open source projects out of what can only be described as benevolence and some commitment to the common good.

Which open-source projects is AOL known for? A quick Google search isn’t returning much.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=aol%20tcl

https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/AOLserver

Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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Meanwhile Facebook is flooded with AI-generated slop with hundreds of thousands of other bots interacting with it to boost it to whoever is insane enough to still use that putrid hellhole of a mass-data-harvesting platform. Dead internet theory is very much happening in real time, and I dread what's about to come since the world has collectively decided to lose their minds with this AI crap. And people on this site a…

The feed certainly is, but I suspect most activity left on Facebook is happening in group pages. Groups are the only thing I still log in for as some of them, particularly the local ones, have no other way of taking part. They are also commonly membership by request and actively moderated. If I had the time (and energy) I might put some effort into advocating to moving to something else, but it will be an uphill batt…

Same here, Groups + Marketplace is actually a wealth of information. There are still a few dark patterns but most manageable for a "free" platform.

OPs comments read like we're describing something the SS built (Godwin says hi).

Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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I agree with the overall sentiment, but it's is not necessarily the case that "the world has collectively decided to lose their minds with this AI crap". You only need a relatively small number of bad actors for this to be the case.

I think the situation highlights the need for better regulation

No thank you. Use existing laws that cover wide nets and actually enforce them.

Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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Meanwhile Facebook is flooded with AI-generated slop with hundreds of thousands of other bots interacting with it to boost it to whoever is insane enough to still use that putrid hellhole of a mass-data-harvesting platform. Dead internet theory is very much happening in real time, and I dread what's about to come since the world has collectively decided to lose their minds with this AI crap. And people on this site a…

That's actually the preferred outcome. The open internet noise ratio will be so high that it turns into pure randomness. The traditional old venues (reputed blogs, small communities forums, pay for valued information, pay for your search, etc..) will resurface again. The Popular Web has been in a slow decline, time to kill it.

Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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post #543

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> they were blindsided by OpenAI Given the mountain of GPUs they bought at precisely the right moment I don't think that's entirely accurate

> Given the mountain of GPUs they bought at precisely the right moment I don't think that's entirely accurate If I remember correctly, FB didnt buy those GPUs because of Open AI, they were going to buy it anyway but Mark said whatever we are buying let's double it.

Yeah, still not entirely clear what exactly they're doing with all of it...but they certainly saw the GPU supply crunch earlier than the rest

Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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post #785

Meanwhile Facebook is flooded with AI-generated slop with hundreds of thousands of other bots interacting with it to boost it to whoever is insane enough to still use that putrid hellhole of a mass-data-harvesting platform. Dead internet theory is very much happening in real time, and I dread what's about to come since the world has collectively decided to lose their minds with this AI crap. And people on this site a…

That's actually the preferred outcome. The open internet noise ratio will be so high that it turns into pure randomness. The traditional old venues (reputed blogs, small communities forums, pay for valued information, pay for your search, etc..) will resurface again. The Popular Web has been in a slow decline, time to kill it.

My concern is that these platforms will soon sell Human Created (tm) content back to us.

Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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post #785

Meanwhile Facebook is flooded with AI-generated slop with hundreds of thousands of other bots interacting with it to boost it to whoever is insane enough to still use that putrid hellhole of a mass-data-harvesting platform. Dead internet theory is very much happening in real time, and I dread what's about to come since the world has collectively decided to lose their minds with this AI crap. And people on this site a…

That's actually the preferred outcome. The open internet noise ratio will be so high that it turns into pure randomness. The traditional old venues (reputed blogs, small communities forums, pay for valued information, pay for your search, etc..) will resurface again. The Popular Web has been in a slow decline, time to kill it.

Is it really a decline? If people are looking for and consuming the slop, where is the issue?

There is still plenty high quality stuff too if that is what you’re looking for. If you want to roll with the pigs in the shit, who am I to tell you no?

Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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The All-In podcast predicted this exact strategy for keeping OpenAI and other upstarts from disrupting the existing big tech firms.

By giving away higher and higher quality models, they undermine the potential return on investment for startups who seek money to train their own. Thus investment in foundation model building stops and they control the ecosystem.

Re: Open source AI is the path forward

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The All-In podcast predicted this exact strategy for keeping OpenAI and other upstarts from disrupting the existing big tech firms. By giving away higher and higher quality models, they undermine the potential return on investment for startups who seek money to train their own. Thus investment in foundation model building stops and they control the ecosystem.

I enjoy that podcast, only really listened to it a few times, but they definitely bring up some interesting topics, the kind I come on HN for.
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