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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by Nimitz14 »

twodave wrote: post #715

As a registered Republican who voted IND in 2016 and then for Trump in 2020 (which probably puts me in about a 0.1% minority on a site like this), I feel upset that the democratic process for choosing a nominee for the Democratic Party is about to just get bypassed. Are other folks feeling this? I’d be even more riled up if this were my party telling me, “Oh, that guy you voted for in the primaries? We thought he cou…

It's difficult to take this in good faith since the amount of effort to understand why this opinion is misguided is so minimal:

People voted for him in the primary based on the belief that he was and would stay in good health. The debate revealed that belief to be false. Post-debate, Democratic voters were massively (70+%) in favor of him resigning his candidacy. NOT stepping down would have been the UNdemocratic thing to do.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by johnnyanmac »

Murky3515 wrote: post #423
tombert wrote: post #278

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There was never any risk of me voting for Trump, but when I watched the debate it became abundantly clear that Biden could not win an election. He came off as an extremely frail old man and I had my doubts that he would survive the entire debate , let alone another four years in office. I'm a pretty left-leaning person and I find Trump to be an overwhelmingly unappealing idiot in general, but even I had to admit that…

Is it really so hard to say "Trump won the debate" without needing to qualify several times how much you hate Trump?

Yes. Because Trump "winning" what was potentially the worst debate in US history isn't even worth a consolation prize.

This isn't even a RvD thing. I'd take back Romney, McCain or go as far back as Bob Dole. Hell, Sarah Palin was at least a pleasant form of stupid instead of malevolent. I remember when the R's at least has some minimal sense of class, but even that's out the window. This is just an embarrassment to my country at this point.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

booleandilemma wrote: post #424
antisthenes wrote: post #375

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I think it's pretty obvious that the assassination attempt will not generate good discussion. Most online platforms are just a collection of spicy take memes about the event. In case of Biden stepping down, there's a lot more to discuss, ranging from his legacy as a statesman to the future of the election.

I think it's pretty obvious there's a leftist bias on this site. Good luck with the cackler :)

If there was a leftist bias don't you think it'd make sense to promote a story of Trump getting shot by his own base? Sounds like there's a right wing bias.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

unraveller wrote: post #485
slater wrote: post #274

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There was a thread; they are allowed. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

The assassination attempt was suppressed until people had discussed it from all angles thoroughly elsewhere and gave up trying to discuss here. Definitely not allowed in the normal sense. But here it's nothing but an instant popup blue rally, for something was totally expected.

> The assassination attempt was suppressed until people had discussed it from all angles thoroughly elsewhere and gave up trying to discuss here

That's a lot of made up shit in one sentence.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by nothercastle »

latexr wrote: post #753
nothercastle wrote: post #735

I think it’s incredibly significant that the announcement came on twitter a network run by a prominent trump supporter. You have to wonder how that all went down for the administration to have to resort to that opinion. For many hours it seemed like the announcement might have actually been a hoax because of how unofficial seeming the announcement was. I really want to read on how this all went down.

Biden’s account is from 2007 and has over 38 million followers. There’s nothing strange about the way it was announced.

Why didn’t they announce at a scheduled time on a friendly network? Like there has to be an interesting story here, it would make a good or tv show.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by jarsin »

twodave wrote: post #715

As a registered Republican who voted IND in 2016 and then for Trump in 2020 (which probably puts me in about a 0.1% minority on a site like this), I feel upset that the democratic process for choosing a nominee for the Democratic Party is about to just get bypassed. Are other folks feeling this? I’d be even more riled up if this were my party telling me, “Oh, that guy you voted for in the primaries? We thought he cou…

I think Kennedy will get way more votes than usual because of this. Which will ensure a Trump victory.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by Nimitz14 »

purple_ferret wrote: post #88
ahartmetz wrote: post #41

Oof. This guy has been the biggest positive surprise of the US presidents in my lifetime. Expectations were low, but he actually turned out to be a good president (from a European perspective). No new wars, no more talk about shifting defense focus to Asia, generally nothing unreasonable. Good support for Ukraine, no doubts about NATO - rather the opposite. Basically, the rich uncle on the other side of the pond has…

Unfortunately his domestic achievements have been somewhat mediocre. His signature achievements essentially were one time cash payments to people. I really do think his major failure was not pushing for a lasting achievement like implementing federal parental leave. He had the chance, but opted for a 1 year extension of child tax credits. And of course the US has an illegal immigration problem. European right on the…

His domestic achievements are the most impressive and impactful since LBJ. You should educate yourself.

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Post by tempestn »

tiffanyh wrote: post #533

Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Because the Founders didn't think of it, and though it would obviously be a good idea now, it's no longer possible to get enough consensus on literally anything to amend the constitution.

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Post by tcmart14 »

malloryerik wrote: post #766
avar wrote: post #590

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> you must be younger than > the average life expectancy > (currently 73yo) - while in > office. As an aside, it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not. That number includes those who die in infancy, etc. If you wanted to limit it by "life expectancy" you'd want to limit it by the statistical expected remaining years of life at the candidate's current age .…

Still, people age very differently. Some octogenarians are completing triathlons. Medicine also seems likely to increase longevity. Think of the many who through their 80s were cogent, even masterful. Examples include Warren Buffett, John Searle, Hubert Dreyfus, George Soros, Henry Kissinger, Clint Eastwood, and with women it’s probably even more common, and we can look to Nancy Pelosi, or indeed my own grandmother.…

Yea people do. Some of the more recent interviews with Jimmy Carter is a good example. Recent as in pre his wife passing away. I havn't seen any interviews of him since then, so I am not sure if he is declining. It is often that in a long marriage, when one partner dies, the others start slipping. But the ones before, he was in his upper 90s and outside of the fact that me may not move particularly fast, he was (still is?) still sharp as a whip.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by [deleted] »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #763
trentnix wrote: post #4

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Republicans would have to confirm a VP replacement, which they won't do. So even if he had to resign, he would be held hostage by Republicans because they would rather he lead the country badly than let someone else take over.

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