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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by emmelaich »

sahila wrote: post #757
IanCal wrote: post #701

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incredible. Gpt4 spots that the door is transparent and that changes things but has this great line > When you initially pick a door (in this case, door number 1 where you already see the car), you have a 1/3 chance of having picked the car (Asking it to explain this it correctly solves the problem but it's a wonderfully silly sentence) Edit - in a new chat it gets it right the first time

This is not convincing though that gpt4 actually understands the problem. Here's a slight variation I asked and it fails miserably. https://chat.openai.com/share/22a9027f-a2c1-428a-94a2-8fd918... I wonder what lends itself it answer correct in one situation but not the other? Was your question previously asked already and it recognized it whereas my question is different enough?

You could say it doesn't "understand" anything really.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by emmelaich »

DannyBee wrote: post #386
ipsum2 wrote: post #82

In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

so I have done a lot of transcripts, coding, one versus the other (gpt4 vs ultra). Often simple prompts like refactor this code or convert this python to typescript. My experience is that Gemini ultra understands the code better, but doesn’t always give me as complete of results (they seem to limit output length more) Beyond that it is very smart. I’ve had to tell me this code packs 12 bit integers into different par…

> what it is doing doesn't, say, appear on GitHub in a nicer form

Surely many similar bits of code appear? I'd have to see your problem though.

I'm thinking of ETL type code which has to mangle various custom exotic encodings into others and vice-versa.

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Post by ElijahLynn »

artdigital wrote: post #737
gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

They’ve plastered “bard” ads everywhere in Tokyo for a while. Surprised to kill the name so quickly, the marketing team in Japan probably had no idea (Personally, I never liked how Bard sounded. Can’t put my finger on why, it was just not a pleasant name to me)

Same here. Bard is not a sexy name. Gemini is way more sexy. (Neither is ChatGPT, or Google though either). I can't wait until we can call the assistant whatever we want, like Jarvis.

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Post by gnicholas »

CydeWeys wrote: post #777
rob74 wrote: post #773

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gem-in-eye? Ouch! Also, Gemini was appropriate for the space program because (a) there were two astronauts in the capsule and (b) because of the constellation, "aiming for the stars" and all that. For the Google project however I can't come up with a plausible explanation - Google doesn't even try to give a reason for the name either.

I mean it makes sense to me. The AI is your digital assistant. It's a relationship between two minds, man and machine.

I see that angle, but those two things are complementary, not identical. It's not a clone of me — it's something that I ask questions of because I don't know the answer. If it were pitched as a bot that would draft email responses for me automatically, then maybe I would see it fitting better as my 'twin'.

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Post by esafak »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #628
LightMachine wrote: post #602

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't blame Google. Blame "Play Store". Probably the company behind it doesn't want Gemini to succeed.

For people who don't get this: Google has insane internal power struggles and siloing that lead to all manner of dumb inconsistent behavior across google. It would not be unlike google for the "Play team" to have their hand in some other internal AI (or be anti-AI) and therefore carry a degree of hostilitly towards gemini.

That's what happens when the person in charge of both doesn't enforce alignment. You can't leave orgs to their own devices.

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Post by ithkuil »

artdigital wrote: post #737
gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

They’ve plastered “bard” ads everywhere in Tokyo for a while. Surprised to kill the name so quickly, the marketing team in Japan probably had no idea (Personally, I never liked how Bard sounded. Can’t put my finger on why, it was just not a pleasant name to me)

Barudu?

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Post by esafak »

e____g wrote: post #756
jonplackett wrote: post #427

I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed. Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get. Question: I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why Gemini advanced: You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear corr…

User: Which is heavier, two pounds of feathers or a pound of bricks? Gemini: Neither! They both weigh the same, which is two pounds. The key is in the wording of the question. You're comparing equal amounts of two different materials (two pounds of feathers vs. one pound of bricks). As long as the quantity is the same, the weight (force exerted by gravity) will always be the same regardless of the material. This is a…

This is surely in the training data.

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Post by ipsum2 »

ipsum2 wrote: post #82

In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

Don't install the Gemini android app, it'll break Google assistant and you won't be able to operate Nest devices from your phone.

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Post by QuantumGood »

kevinmchugh wrote: post #594
ipsum2 wrote: post #82

In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

On logic it cannot handle the Dumb Monty Hall problem at all: https://g.co/gemini/share/33c5fb45738f

That is not the Monty Hall problem, it is a trick question based on the Monty Hall problem. It's a reasonable test, and I see GPT-4 recognizes the problem AS WRITTEN, and perhaps "the Dumb Monty Hall problem" is some generally accepted standard that I haven't encountered before.

edit: "AS WRITTEN"

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