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Re: Gemini AI

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Post by cyanydeez »

brainwad wrote: post #675
ithkuil wrote: post #652

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do they gate access at country level if it's about language. I live in Europe and speak English just fine. Can't they just offer it in English only until the multi-language support is ready?

Launching anything as a big tech company in Europe is an absolute nightmare. Between GDPR, DSA, DMA and in Google's case, several EC remedies, it takes months to years to get anything launched.

"raping and pillaging intellectual and privacy domains are harder where protected"

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by nonethewiser »

headcanon wrote: post #532
tikkun wrote: post #60

One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…

Its a conceit but not unjustified, they have been doing "AI" since their inception. And yeah, Sundar's term up until recently seems to me to be milking existing products instead of creating new ones, so it is a bit annoying when they act like this was their plan the whole time. Google's weakness is on the product side, their research arm puts out incredible stuff as other commenters have pointed out. GPT essentially…

The point is if you have to remind people then you’re doing something wrong. The insight to draw from this is not that everyone else is misinformed about googles abilities (the implication), its that Google has not capitalized on their resources.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by cyanydeez »

EZ-E wrote: post #362
SeanAnderson wrote: post #340

Gemini Ultra isn't released yet and is months away still. Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 No public stats on Gemini Pro. (I'm wrong. Pro stats not on website, but tucked in a paper - https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_... ) I feel this is overstated hype. There is no competitor to GPT-4 being released today. I…

Investors are getting impatient! ChatGPT has already replaced Google for me and I wonder if Google starts to feel the pressure.

probably not. their "free" search don't make money

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by mfrc »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #505
bogwog wrote: post #499

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> Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly Reminds me of the Stadia reveal, where the first words out of his mouth were along the lines of "I'll admit, I'm not much of a gamer" This dude needs a new speech writer.

This dude needs a new speech writer. How about we go further and just state what everyone (other than Wall St) thinks: Google needs a new CEO. One more interested in Google's supposed mission ( "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful" ), than in Google's stock price.

It's a publicly-traded company. Wall Street's basically the whole ball game.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by cyanydeez »

Arson9416 wrote: post #454
SeanAnderson wrote: post #340

Gemini Ultra isn't released yet and is months away still. Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 No public stats on Gemini Pro. (I'm wrong. Pro stats not on website, but tucked in a paper - https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_... ) I feel this is overstated hype. There is no competitor to GPT-4 being released today. I…

Google is playing catchup while pretending that they've been at the forefront of this latest AI wave. This translates to a lot of talk and not a lot of action. OpenAI knew that just putting ChatGPT in peoples hands would ignite the internet more than a couple of over-produced marketing videos. Google needs to take a page from OpenAI's playbook.

Google has lawyers.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by tim333 »

mg wrote: post #293

To test whether bard.google.com is already updated in your region, this prompt seems to work: Which version of Bard am I using? Here in Europe (Germany), I get: The current version is Bard 2.0.3. It is powered by the Google AI PaLM 2 model Considering that you have to log in to use Bard while Bing offers GPT-4 publicly and that Bard will be powered by Gemini Pro, which is not the version that they say beats GPT-4, it…

I'm in the UK. When I went to bard.google.com I think I got the old one but the link under "Bringing Gemini Pro to Bard" in the article seemed to link to the new one.

"You are currently using Bard version 2023.12.07." ...

"Is that using the new Gemini model?"

"Yes, Bard version 2023.12.07 and later use the Gemini model. This model is a significant improvement over the previous model, LaMDA..."

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by johnfn »

JCharante wrote: post #589
johnfn wrote: post #444

Very impressive! I noticed two really notable things right off the bat: 1. I asked it a question about a feature that TypeScript doesn't have[1]. GPT4 usually does not recognize that it's impossible (I've tried asking it a bunch of times, it gets it right with like 50% probability) and hallucinates an answer. Gemini correctly says that it's impossible. The impressive thing was that it then linked to the open GitHub i…

> I've never seen GPT4 produce a link, other than when it's in web-browsing mode, which I find to be slower and less accurate. Really? I've been using gpt4 since about April and it used to very often create links for me. I'll tell it hey I want to find a company that does X in Y city and it generates 5 links for me, and at least one of them is usually real and not hallucinated

OK, maybe "never" is strong, but I've never seen ChatGPT say "This is not a feature that exists, but here's the open issue". And I've asked ChatGPT about a good many features that don't exist.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by xnx »

bastawhiz wrote: post #727
xnx wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of the motivation for running it in the cloud is so they can have a single point of control for enforcing editing policies (e.g. swapping faces).

Do you have evidence of that? Photoshop has blocked you from editing pictures of money for ages and that wasn't in the cloud. Moreover, how does a Google data center know whether you're allowed to swap a particular face versus your device? It's quite a reach to assume Google would go out of their way to prevent you from doing things on your device in their app when other AI-powered apps on your device already exist a…

When I try to remove the head of a person using Magic Editor, I get the message "Magic Editor can't complete this edit. Try a different edit." Also documented here: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-photos-magic-editor-...

I have no doubt Google could (and might) enforce a lot of these rules on the device, but they likely route it through the cloud if there's a new "exploit" that they want to block ASAP instead of waiting for the app to update.

This is an example of the reputational risk Google has to deal with that small startups don't. If some minor app lets you forge photos, it's not a headline. If an official Google app on billions of devices lets you do it, it's a hot topic.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by stavros »

TrackerFF wrote: post #611
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #594

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I'm legitimately starting to wonder what white collar workers will even do in 5-10 years. This just Year 1 of this stuff going mainstream. Careers are 25-30 years long. What will someone entering the workforce today even be doing in 2035?

Yes, imagine being a HS student now, deciding what to do 5-6-7 years from now.

The only safe bet now is menial, manual work, as it's too expensive to automate in non-assembly-line cases.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by aroo »

teleforce wrote: post #536
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #320

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formatted nicely: Dataset | Gemini Ultra | Gemini Pro | GPT-4 MMLU | 90 | 79 | 87 BIG-Bench-Hard | 84 | 75 | 83 HellaSwag | 88 | 85 | 95 Natural2Code | 75 | 70 | 74 WMT23 | 74 | 72 | 74

Excellent comparison, it seems that GPT-4 is only winning in one dataset benchmark namely HellaSwag for sentence completion. Can't wait to get my hands on Bard Advanced with Gemini Ultra, I for one welcome this new AI overlord.

Horrible comparison given one score was achieved using 32-shot CoT (Gemini) and the other was 5-shot (GPT-4).
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