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Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #676
runeks wrote: post #640

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That’s not what it says. Actual quote: > The 12-core CPU design has six performance cores and six efficiency cores, offering single-threaded performance that is up to 30 percent faster than M1 Pro.

Ok, so then the M3 pro is up to 1.3/1.2=~8% faster than the M2 pro? I can see why they wouldn't use that for marketing.

Depends who they are marketing to I think is the point. If the biggest group of potential buyers are not M2 users, then it makes sense not to market to them directly with these stats.

I've got an M1 Max 64GB and I'm not even tempted to upgrade yet, maybe they'll still be comparing to M1 when the M10 comes out though.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by behnamoh »

bredren wrote: post #513
behnamoh wrote: post #467

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Maybe they know M3 is not up for that kind of task.

Possibly this, but also consider Apple is playing major catch up with generative AI. I could see avoiding mention just to keep it a bit further from the mind of reviewers.

Could be, but people are already using M2 Ultra for LLM stuff and like it. Seems like Apple would double down on that.

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Post by gtirloni »

amarshall wrote: post #327
gtirloni wrote: post #186

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I remember getting one of those shiny aluminum MacBooks in 2009. Then MacBooks turned plastic and the aluminum ones became MacBook Pro's. Is this a thing Apple does? I'm not an Apple customer for many years now.

The plastic MacBooks were only made 2006–2010.

I bought an aluminum one in January 2009 if my memory serves me right. It was a nice machine, wasn't it first aluminum MacBook?

I don't think it was the Pro version (if it even existed). I certainly didn't have money to buy anything but the cheapest model.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by paulpan »

kivlad wrote: post #160

A few things I noticed, as I'm seeing the variety of SKUs becoming more complex. - Note that memory bandwidth is down. M2 Pro had 200GB/s, M3 Pro only has 150GB/s. M3 Max only has 400GB/s on the higher binned part. - Just like the low-spec M3 14" has one fewer Thunderbolt port, it also doesn't officially support Thunderbolt 4 (like M1/M2 before it) - The M3 Pro loses the option for an 8TB SSD. Likely because it was a…

The new M3 14" MBP seems to be a red herring - why does it even exist? Why not just refresh the MBA instead?

An obvious rule of thumb is for "Pro"-branded laptops to only use "Pro"-branded chips. It's what they follow for the iPhone lineup, but I suppose iPad Pros also use non-Pro chips. Just seems like a very confusing SKU to create, and definitely something Steve wouldn't approve of.

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Post by gtirloni »

musictubes wrote: post #425
gtirloni wrote: post #174

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I'm personally always near a wall socket. My laptop is mostly a desktop. When I'm out and need to use the battery, it's only for a few hours. Do people really need >8h battery life?

I find the extra battery life his nice but it is really just a side effect of the machines not getting hot. That is an amazing feature if you ever have to actually use it on your lap. That also means that it stays silent the vast majority of the time.

I think this is a great advantage, regardless of battery life, like you said.

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Post by ExoticPearTree »

koito17 wrote: post #102

One thing that left me a bit confused was the comparison against Intel Macs. Although I am still using an Intel 16-inch MacBook, I really wanted to see how the M3 fared against the M2, not Intel and M1. I think it's no surprise the M3 exceeds the Intel Core i7-9750H in basically all of Apple's own benchmarking. My real question, which will probably be answered next week, is how it compares to the generation right bef…

The comparison with M2 is not very useful at this point. Throughout the presentation, the gains were something like 15-20% in some areas.

Even if they do their own chips, Apple cannot achieve a revolutionary performance gain year over year, that's why between two generations we'll see something like this for a long time. And since their idea is for people to be using Macs for many years, it makes sense to compare it to older generations to try and persuade people to do the upgrade.

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Post by wslh »

kmlx wrote: post #772
wslh wrote: post #735

Really love the pace of Apple innovations. Nowadays, I am biased towards battery and weight (MacBook Air) if it is for portability and the other line of notebooks are converted into desktops via TB exactly because of weight and battery life. I feel the difference in battery use from one to the other. The Air seems like it has "infinite battery" evn when the others use Mx processors. Also waiting for a great Linux por…

i’ve had the 16gb ram macbook air for 3 years now and it’s still an incredible machine considering lightness, battery, and passive cooling.

Ah! Thanks! I forgot to mention passive cooling. I am old enough to receive the heat of a new notebook. This is when "mechanic physics" tend to zero.

I would add that my MacBook Air received an smoothie of strawberry, mango, and orange over its keyboard and also fell off a few times from more than a meter.

BTW, I don't consider myself an Apple fan but really appreciate different form factors and real innovations. Hope others to follow. I think using several operating systems opens your mind.

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Post by Ensorceled »

benterix wrote: post #648
aatd86 wrote: post #644

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Wait telemetry is opt-out? And I've never heard people complain? Genuinely surprised as it seems to be quite a commonly controversial thing amongst devs.

Well, Apple generally has so much info about your every step people stopped caring a long time ago.

I think you are talking about Google, not Apple.
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