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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by badsectoracula »

reedlaw wrote: post #714
raytopia wrote: post #684

I've had this idea for a while now but what if someone built a game console based on the Pi hardware? I know lots of people use their pi's for retro gaming but I'd really like to see some new games made for the hardware. Does anyone know if there's a group working on this or would be interested in creating one?

It would likely be similar to gaming on Linux but with the limitations of ARM-only and OpenGL ES 3.1 or Vulkan 1.2. [1] What would be more interesting is an open source micro-kernel and gaming SDK targeting Raspberry Pi. 1. See https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Linux_ARM_games

> OpenGL ES 3.1 or Vulkan 1.2.

Weird that it doesn't have the full OpenGL, even if it was through Zink.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by naikrovek »

Dah00n wrote: post #602
Archelaos wrote: post #447

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> I guess that is fair, especially with inflation nowadays. The accumulated inflation in the US since June 2019 is c. 17%.[1] This means US$ 55 in June 2019 is "worth" c. US$ 64.35 today. So it seems that you get a 4GB Raspi 5 for c. 7.25% less today. The "US Real Average Hourly Earnings" have increase by ca. 22% in the same period, from US$ 27.75 to US$ 33.82.[2] So an average person needs to work c. 12% less to buy…

Amazon is not a good place to get prices from for a comparison. All the enshittification has ruined the prices. As it forces prices up outside Amazon too even outside prices are not useful. To do a proper comparison that doesn't include changes forced by Amazon IMO you need to look at non-US non-Amazon non-Amazon-sellers prices and work with those. Quite annoying really.

I've seen the word "enshittification" three times in three days now, and it is already rubbing my last nerve raw.

we make fun of business jargon and buzzword fads, and we do it just as much as anyone else, and it sickens me.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by stkdump »

agloe_dreams wrote: post #652
mrguyorama wrote: post #614

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Do the modern Pi Zeros not compete with the original Pi at a stupid low price?

Not really, the small size adds the need for all kinds of adapters to have the same functionality.

No need for the wifi and bt dongles anymore, are they are integrated in the Zero 2 W. You can connect keyboard and mouse either via bt or via a single usb otg dongle to connect a wireless keyboard/mouse set or a keyboard with integrated usb hub. In my opinion this is superior to the original B. And far superior to the original A anyway, while still being cheaper. Remember even the original B had just two USB ports, so in practice you needed an extra hub almost always, because of missing functionality that is now integrated.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by lofaszvanitt »

iamtedd wrote: post #89
foggywin wrote: post #70

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What do you mean with vague information? There is an entire blog post describing the product: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

Another reason not to buy it.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by adolph »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #635
adolph wrote: post #521

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There's nothing stopping a person from putting an ESP on a RPi B board format (or a Zero one), other than certain IO limitation. The upcoming P4 might be a candidate [0]. If you are interested in sbc in Pi form factors (B, Zero, CM3, CM4), then something I follow is CNX [1]. It will typically have notifications of any new Orange Pi, Libre Computer, etc. 0. https://www.espressif.com/en/news/ESP32-P4 1. https://www.cnx…

It would be amusing if they used a pi2040 chip to drive the IO pins on such a board. I'm sure there's cheaper chips out there to do this.

It might make sense given pi2040’s PIO capabilities. Additionally, the RPi5’s io chip, RP1, might have some similar tricks inside.

The Raspberry Pi Pico has a fascinating peripheral known as the “Programmable Input/Output” (PIO). This device allows us to write very simple assembly programs to emulate a number of different peripherals and communication protocols.

https://www.digikey.com/en/maker/projects/raspberry-pi-pico-...

RP1 is our I/O controller for Raspberry Pi 5, designed by the same team at Raspberry Pi that delivered the RP2040 microcontroller, and implemented, like RP2040, on TSMC’s mature 40LP process.

https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by peteforde »

d3w4s9 wrote: post #357
peteforde wrote: post #115

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NUCs cost hundreds of dollars, though. And they are probably 8x bigger, if you start stacking Pis.

Only if you are looking for a latest-gen or last gen machine. You can find some old NUCs for cheap, and there are lots of mini PCs or thin clients for around ~100. Yes about twice as expensive but more than twice as powerful (in both processor speed and features). Of course only if you plan to use it as a Linux computer, not for GPIO stuff.

This isn't super-practical for a commercial application which requires 70 identical machines.

Not only are they expensive and relatively large, machines that have had previous owners often have mystery issues which make them great for home tinkering projects, less so for something that can get you in trouble if it breaks down.

There's a reason companies buy new parts instead of employing teams to scour Craigslist for deals.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by impalallama »

Narishma wrote: post #721
impalallama wrote: post #516

Surprised by the amount of negativity here. So many comments that are saying the raspberry pi isn't competitive in their market anymore and then post more locked down less open systems at 2x the price.

That's par for the course. Raspberry Pi always receives a lot of backlash here for some reason, regardless of the news.

Very interesting have a wildly popular in demand product turns people against you.
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