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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by TeMPOraL »

iudqnolq wrote: post #427
dcow wrote: post #261

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Whether or not you’re profitable has very little to do with how valuable others think you are. And usually having competitors is something that validates your market.

> And usually having competitors is something that validates your market a whole bunch of AI startups were founded around the same time. surely each can't validate the market for the others and be validated by the others in turn

The surviving ones can. The same way that multiple species of trees, growing on the same patch of the ground, desperately competing for sunlight, together validate that the soil underneath is fertile.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by TeMPOraL »

kranke155 wrote: post #580
ZiiS wrote: post #337

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_if_ it is better at making advances then us then everything in human nature points to us letting it make all future advances.

Im not sure. I suspect it might be better at some advances but not necessarily better at everything.

As long as it's better at some of the advances that would make it even better at those advances, or better at more advances, then it'll quickly become better than us in approximately everything, and at that point humans become NPCs of their own story.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by famouswaffles »

TerrifiedMouse wrote: post #727
NikolaNovak wrote: post #291

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This is a fairly perpetual discussion, but I'll go for another round: I feel like using LLM today is like using search 15 years ago - you get a feel for getting results you want. I'd never use chatGPT for anything that's even remotely obscure, controversial, or niche. But through all my double-checking, I've had phenomenal success rate in getting useful, readable, valid responses to well-covered / documented topics s…

> I feel like using LLM today is like using search 15 years ago - you get a feel for getting results you want. I don't think it's quite the same. With search results, aka web sites, you can compare between them and get a "majority opinion" if you have doubts - it doesn't guarantee correctness but it does improve the odds. Some sites are also more reputable and reliable than others - e.g. if the information is from Re…

>although some like Bard provide alternate drafts but they are all from the same source and can all be hallucinations ...

Yes and no. If the LLM is repeating the same thing on multiple drafts then it's very unlikely to be a hallucination.

It's when multiple generations are all saying different things that you need to take notice.

LLMs hallucinate yes but getting the same hallucination multiple times is incredibly rare.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by TeMPOraL »

tomjen3 wrote: post #402
eximius wrote: post #351

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Your complaint is they don't email you enough ? Sarcasm aside, I understand your complaint, but still, a little funny.

The companies you want to hear back from never email you, the ones that do you don't care about.

In general, if companies e-mail you, it's almost always with worthless bullshit and/or attempts at tricking you into spending more money. OpenAI is not doing that, hence radio silence.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by dotancohen »

modeless wrote: post #459

Voice has the potential to be awesome. This demo is really underwhelming to me because of the multi-second latency between the query and response, just like every other lame voice assistant. It doesn't have to be this way! I have a local demo using Llama 2 that responds in about half a second and it feels like talking to an actual person instead of like Siri or something. I really should package it up so people can t…

  > determining when the user is done talking is tough.
Sometimes that task is tough for the speaker too, not just the listener. Courteous interruptions or the lack thereof might be a shibboleth for determining when we are speaking to an AI.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by famouswaffles »

laurels-marts wrote: post #559

I'm very curious about this feature: > analyze a complex graph for work-related data Does this mean that I can take a screenshot of e.g. Apple stock chart and it will be able to reason about it and provide insights and analysis? GPT-4 currently can display images but cannot reason or understand them at all. I think it's one thing to have some image recognition and be able to detect that the picture "contains a time-s…

Look at this link of GPT-4 Vision analyzing charts(last image).

https://imgur.com/a/iOYTmt0

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by idopmstuff »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #717
idopmstuff wrote: post #244

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It increasingly feels to me like building any kind of general-use AI tool or app is a bad choice. I see two viable AI business models: 1. Domain-specific AI - Training an AI model on highly technical and specific topics that general-purpose AI models don't excel at. 2. Integration - If you're going to build on an existing AI model, don't focus on adding more capabilities. Instead, focus on integrating it into compani…

If you focus on integration, you're up against autogpt, gorilla, etc.

AutoGPT isn't remotely usable for practical enterprise software purposes right now.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by idopmstuff »

Renaud wrote: post #290
idopmstuff wrote: post #244

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It increasingly feels to me like building any kind of general-use AI tool or app is a bad choice. I see two viable AI business models: 1. Domain-specific AI - Training an AI model on highly technical and specific topics that general-purpose AI models don't excel at. 2. Integration - If you're going to build on an existing AI model, don't focus on adding more capabilities. Instead, focus on integrating it into compani…

> building any kind of general-use AI tool or app is a bad choice Maybe not if you rely on models that can be ran locally. OpenAI is big now, and will probably stay big, but with hardware acceleration, AI-anything will become ubiquitous and OpenAI won’t be able to control a domain that’s probably going to be as wide as what computing is already today. The shape of what’s coming is hard to imagine now. I feel like the…

There are plenty of OS models being released - there's going to be a steadily increasing quantity + quality of models you can run locally. I don't think it's a good place to compete.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by idopmstuff »

moneywoes wrote: post #328
idopmstuff wrote: post #244

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It increasingly feels to me like building any kind of general-use AI tool or app is a bad choice. I see two viable AI business models: 1. Domain-specific AI - Training an AI model on highly technical and specific topics that general-purpose AI models don't excel at. 2. Integration - If you're going to build on an existing AI model, don't focus on adding more capabilities. Instead, focus on integrating it into compani…

> Instead, focus on integrating it into companies' and users' existing workflows. Use it to automate internal processes and connect systems in ways that weren't previously possible why wouldn’t a company do that themselves e.g. how inter come has vertically integrated AI? any examples?

It's classic build vs. buy. Companies tend to build their own products and use third party software for internal tools.

Just look at Salesforce AppExchange - it's a marketplace of software built on top of Salesforce, a large chunk of which serves to integrate other systems with Salesforce. LLMs open up the ability to build new types of integrations and to provide a much friendlier UI to non-developers who need to work on integrating things or dealing with data that exists in different places.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by ShamelessC »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #425
ilaksh wrote: post #16

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OpenAI is also releasing DALLE-3 in "early October" and the images they chose for their demos show it demonstrating unprecedented levels of prompt understanding, including embedding full sentences of text in an output image.

Not unprecedented at all. SDXL Images look better than the examples for DALLE-3 and SDXL has a massive tool ecosystem of things like controlnet, Lora’s, regional prompting that is simply not there with DALLE-3

There are pros and cons for sure but you should check out the press release, DALLE3 is definitely capable of stuff that sd xl isn’t.
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