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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by VoodooJuJu »

brookst wrote: post #428
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

It’s of questionable taste to use someone’s death to advance your politics when the facts are known and can be fairly used as evidence that your tribe is right about something. It’s in poor taste indeed to acknowledge that you don’t know the facts of a murder, and to still insist that the killing supports your politics.

I can't think of a stronger reason to start getting political, to start rallying for a change, than when brothers-in-arms, when innocents, are falling to the sword.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by TurkishPoptart »

ronnier wrote: post #476
labrador wrote: post #446

People in big cities get mugged, sometimes violently. This happened in Republican led cities when I was young. It happens in Democratic led cities now. It happens in London. It happens in Moscow. You can have policy differences with the government of San Francisco, but please don't capitalize on this tragic death to advance them. It's exploitive and disrespectful to Bob Lee's family. I know I'm whistling in the wind,…

China, Korea, Japan, has some of the largest cities in the world and violent crime is extremely rare in those cities. Crime was never on my mind when I lived in Tokyo. “Big cities” isn’t the cause.

Demographics in Tokyo are different than in SF.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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micromacrofoot wrote: post #735
hintymad wrote: post #713

I don't see what's wrong with SF. /sarcasm SF is the people's choice, no? The people in SF elected DAs who release booked violent criminals right away, multiple times. The people in SF elected politicians who told us, repeatedly and publicly, that looting is a way for people to express their anger or looters were hungry, and violent criminals are victims and questioning their policies are homophobic and racism. The p…

Are you not connecting the dots here at all? You think SF would have headed in this direction if it wasn't heavily gentrified by enormous SF salaries and subsequent nimbyism? It's the same gentrification -> disparity -> flight -> neglect cycle that's happened to lesser degrees elsewhere. This is unique only in its severity.

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by systemvoltage »

Overtonwindow wrote: post #661
cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

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I am a democrat for over 15 years and I think we need to have some self reflection. It's time to look inwards and not throw rocks at people who criticize us. Our party has fallen. Classical liberalism has been abandoned. Our policies have real effects, to the point where people are fleeing to better places.

The first step is to acknowledge the failures. And then rise up with greater understanding.

We can't get past the first step.

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Post by dang »

650REDHAIR wrote: post #610
kenneth wrote: post #151

I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.

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Adding to a regional flamewar with personal attack is the sort of thing we ban accounts for. I'm not going to ban you because it doesn't look like you do this habitually, but please don't post like this to HN, regardless of how provocative another comment is or you feel it is. We need users here to follow the site guidelines even when that happens (or rather, precisely when that happens). Otherwise we end up in a downward spiral.

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Post by foolinaround »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #736
dxbydt wrote: post #671

Speaking as an immigrant - Worked in SF most of last decade. Left in 2018. Crime was on a steady uptick while I was there. Once in the Bart, a young man grabbed a cellphone from the guy seated right next to me & bolted out of the train. The train started, and the cellphone owner gave chase. The Bart police arrived soon after, with guns pointed straight at the passengers. The robber was fast and jumped over the turnst…

> So for a whole 3 days, the garage was wide open & anybody could have walked in & grabbed whatever. Nothing was taken. On the contrary there was a nice note from the neighbor about applying grease on the railing so the garage door stays closed. Everyone seems to be missing a piece of critical non-political information. One setting is rural, everyone owns the house, lives there long-term, everyone knows neighbours. Y…

this "not knowing the neighbors" is a flimsy excuse at best. This is mostly true of any densely populated city around the world, where people move in for jobs.

In the past few years, crime in some US cities are committed by certain groups of the population - who are partly encouraged by the local powers.

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Post by pauldenton »

eertami wrote: post #771
subsubzero wrote: post #708

Its a real bummer with SF, but the problems are totally self inflicted. If the politics were of a different breed I could see it being one of the best cities to live in the US, let alone the world. Having worked there for close to a decade the stuff I have seen was really depressing. I visited my cousin who works at Ouster nearby for lunch one day and was wondering what all these white casings were littering the grou…

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San Fransisco Democrats aren't left wing enough for you? What about Venezuela?

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Post by dang »

poorbutdebtfree wrote: post #565
kenneth wrote: post #151

I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.

Maybe SOMA needs to double the amount of BLM, Ukraine, and trans flags?

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

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