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Cyclists now outnumber motorists in City of London

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Re: Cyclists now outnumber motorists in City of London

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I really dislike cars in cities, but equally I dislike cyclists and cycling myself for the following reasons: > do not have to worry about car maintenance, parking tickets or theft; Not sure where bicycle theft is not a thing, I've not encountered this, even in Vienna, one of the safest cities in the world. You still need to lock your bicycle safely. > you will not kill someone if you ride after a night drinking; In…

> You always end up with muddy splashes on your trousers. If you cycle then better not wear nice shoes or light trousers, which again limits where/when you can effectively use a bicycle as a way of commute. Does your bike not have fenders?

I suspect his bike might not even have a saddle.

Re: Cyclists now outnumber motorists in City of London

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I am on board with this. You can do someone a serious injury while cycling. Also, you might kill yourself by drunk cycling. And that is likely to have a huge effect on lots of people you care about. It's just a bad idea all round...

> It's just a bad idea all round... Drinking alone is a bad idea all around.

Yes, better not to drink alone if at all possible.

Re: Cyclists now outnumber motorists in City of London

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one major difference is that someone who is incredibly drunk can still drive a car at 100kmph, but they can't balance well enough to ride their bike.

You have to be really plastered to not ride a bike any more. Like a lot, a lot.

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Re: Cyclists now outnumber motorists in City of London

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> - might be impossible depending on work or children; The newer style of cargo bikes can for many families replace a car. Have two kids seated in the trunk of the bike and drop them off at kindergarten, then continue biking to work and pick them up on the way home. Those are a bit on the pricier side, though. Still cheap compared to a car, but people often look at them as something "extravagant" or "in addition" to…

what do people do that have kids between the "too big for cargo bike" and "too young to drive their own car" category? I used to take my kids all the time on my e-bike with a burley bike trailer. Now I have a 13 year old and a 10 year old. I'm pretty sure the middle schooler would get made fun of if his friends saw him showing up to school or soccer practice in the cargo bucket of my bike. For people that have hit th…

My commute in Jr. high was 7.7 km each way, I started doing that when I was 11.

Re: Cyclists now outnumber motorists in City of London

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Somewhat unrelated to the article, but I live in a mid-size EU city and dumped my car for an e-bike a few months ago. Surprisingly, it hasn't been that hard (my GF kept her car, and I have a car-sharing subscription): Pros: - Immediately stopped having insomnia. Better feel overall; - about €300/month in additional disposable income. That's basically a free lunch everyday! - significantly faster if parking is taken i…

> - do not have to worry about car maintenance, parking tickets or theft;

I'm glad you're in a city you don't have to worry about theft, but this is one of my biggest issues with bike ownership. You basically need to get a shitty bike to not worry about it being stolen or hope there's something adequate to firmly lock it to at the destination in my city.

Re: Cyclists now outnumber motorists in City of London

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> Or, you know, we can do both at the same time? Or maybe we prioritise the class of vehicles responsible for almost 5 fatalities and 75 serious injuries a day[1]? For comparison, [2] says that 30 pedestrians were killed and 1093 serious injuries involved cyclists in eight (8) years. In 416 weeks, that's less than one (1) week of car deaths (0.2% ratio) and two (2) weeks of serious injuries (0.4% ratio). Anyone that…

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Where does that leave motorbikes, lorries and buses?

Re: Cyclists now outnumber motorists in City of London

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> - might be impossible depending on work or children; The newer style of cargo bikes can for many families replace a car. Have two kids seated in the trunk of the bike and drop them off at kindergarten, then continue biking to work and pick them up on the way home. Those are a bit on the pricier side, though. Still cheap compared to a car, but people often look at them as something "extravagant" or "in addition" to…

what do people do that have kids between the "too big for cargo bike" and "too young to drive their own car" category? I used to take my kids all the time on my e-bike with a burley bike trailer. Now I have a 13 year old and a 10 year old. I'm pretty sure the middle schooler would get made fun of if his friends saw him showing up to school or soccer practice in the cargo bucket of my bike. For people that have hit th…

10 is plenty old to cycle a bike themselves?

Re: Cyclists now outnumber motorists in City of London

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I see lots of folks in the comments assuming what would happen when you bike drunk, seemingly not ever having done so themselves or seen it. I live in a student city in the Netherlands (Groningen), where most students go out on the town by bike. It's really not much more dangerous than walking drunk. And it's very much preferable to driving drunk. Thousands of students park their bikes in the city's central undergrou…

Hitting a pedestrian when riding a bike at 25 km/h has life threatening consequences for the pedestrian. Pedestrians do die when hit by bikers. Especially elderly which have worse awareness around them and are more fragile.

Where do you think cyclists are going 25 km/h while interacting with pedestrians? If it's on a shared pathway they should be going more slowly, if someone fails to do that that's as much their failure as if they hit someone with a car. And if they're on a road/cycle lane and they fail to respect a ped crossing, that's again the same.
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