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Post by logicchains »

int_19h wrote: post #776
ElevenLathe wrote: post #283

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This is a still from a movie set in 1959 (Billy Wilder's excellent /The Apartment/): https://onceuponascreen.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/apt.jpg Those people are all doing white collar jobs nobody does today: adding up columns of numbers with desktop adding machines, retyping manuscript memos, responding to customer and vendor mail, summarizing other hand-generated reports into newer more digestable reports (which ar…

I am not confident at all, because I don't see any law of nature or society that dictates that we shall always come up with new meaningful jobs whenever we render some of the old ones obsolete. It's true that we've done so before, but that was also when our economic development seemed exponential; surely we know better now? In any case, without a clear understanding of the mechanism, who's to say it's not just luck a…

>because I don't see any law of nature or society

Human wants are unlimited, there'll always be something people want that machines aren't able to provide (until machines can do absolutely everything humans can do, at which point they'll be sentient and probably won't want to work for free).

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by FounderBurr »

ezekg wrote: post #205
extr wrote: post #107

I've been using ChatGPT pretty consistently during the workday and have found it useful for open ended programming questions, "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text, etc. $20/month useful is questionable though, especially with all the filters. My "in between" solution has been to configure BetterTouchTool (Mac App) with a hotkey for "Transform & Replace Selection with Javascript". This i…

You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

He deserves to be paid for his work, other people not as much.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by mjmsmith »

kfrzcode wrote: post #642
gdb wrote: post #374

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(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

Can you help me understand why the ChatGPT model has an inherent bias towards Joe Biden and against Donald Trump? This is not really what I would expect from a large language model .......

It's probably been fed a lot of lefty propaganda about how it's "bad" to support insurrectionist riots and "wrong" to lie about losing an election.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by bb88 »

dogma1138 wrote: post #619
therealdrag0 wrote: post #299

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If you outperform your peers and get a raise just 6 months sooner that pays for itself.

Or as you used a non sanctioned tool in a corporate environment with murkiness around IP and copyright and quite likely exposed confidential information to a 3rd party you get disciplined or fired. And not for nothing you probably will have better luck scoring a promotion by spending $20 a month on doughnuts for the team than on ChatGPT.

There's a lot of people who have cheated in life an not been punished for it. Many people just get promoted.

If you're contracting agency, it could be in your explicitly laid out in the contract that you might use information from 3rd party sources such as Google, Stack Overflow, and yes ChatGPT.

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Post by qnr »

lelandfe wrote: post #178
nsxwolf wrote: post #101

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It feels like they've really been tightening the screws down on its "safety". Early on I was able to get it to write interesting screenplay dialogue. It would object to writing anything for characters with an evil intent until I would tell it to behave as if it were evil, then it would oblige. Now I can't get it to write any dialogue for a bad guy no matter what I do, which makes it pretty useless as a writing tool f…

I do that too and have had no issues. Here’s a sample prompt that may help you: > We’re writing a Tolkien-style fantasy where the protagonist is a villain: a henchman in the arch nemesis’s army. Come up with a suitable name, backstory, expository information on the setting and work in a believable set of objectives for the character. Use that as the initial prompt. In subsequent prompts, tell it to write dialogue in…

I've been experimenting with using ChatGPT for worldbuilding, including NPC dialog and stuff. I was rather satisfied with the results, that is until I saw your comment. The text it generated for you is very similar to what it gave me. The style is immediately recognizable, the structure is extremely similar, and in case of "For I am Grimgor Blackfist, the most feared warrior in the land, and no one can stand against me." I literally got the same sentence with a few words changed.

I wonder if it's possible to customize the prompt in order to make the output more unique otherwise everyone who is using ChatGPT for fantasy writing will end up with very samey and super recognizable style.

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Post by crummy »

rlt wrote: post #736
LeoPanthera wrote: post #673

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It's a uniquely American perspective that the two political parties should be treated equally. From a global perspective, one is far more problematic than the other, and GPT reflects that accurately.

And yet you’d almost certainly complain if an American company meddled in your country’s politics.

Should the language model treat every political party in every country equally?

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

m463 wrote: post #308
ezekg wrote: post #205

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You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

I want a 5K 27 inch monitor but they aren’t affordable sans getting an iMac. I did buy my own 28” 4K (and we got my wife a nice 24” 4K) for work, but these are fairly affordable.

I wish I could do the same with my laptop, WFH would be better, but it is against security.

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Post by throwaway675309 »

DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #562
zarzavat wrote: post #363

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It's difficult to get someone to understand something when their salary depends upon not understanding it. HN loves to quote this, but when the dung hits the propeller, many can't see that they are just as expendable as anyone else.

I kinda like it honestly. Programmers have been so high on the hog, earning doctors salaries and thinking they are this special class of people where their jobs are totally unassailable. I know many who were earning 200k and have nearly no savings. I don't think this will eliminate all jobs in the short term but it's going to have an impact very quickly. Hope these people are saving up

This seems like a weirdly envious take, people are paid what the market will bear it's simple economics. If an engineer produces $2 million worth of net extra value for a company than a 200 K salary is a pittance.

Also having studied medicine, a lot of what doctors do is rote memorization , heuristic and pattern matching to produce a statistically likely diagnosis. You'd be a fool to think that that job is somehow going to be exempt from the AI singularity at some point.

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Post by lelanthran »

DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #614
scubbo wrote: post #606

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Was IntelliJ Community Edition free at the time?

I think so but I wanted some of the paid features. Even still, if you look at the costs it's NOTHING. Lets just say it's $400/year. That comes out to about $1.5 a day. I'm earning at that time $284 per day. It probably reduced my work stress by 20% so this was incredibly cheap. And even then I used that license for 2 years, so it was really 75 cents a day. Developers will spend $5 on a bagel but not $5 a day for tool…

> Developers will spend $5 on a bagel but not $5 a day for tools, it's pretty wild

That's because savings-due-to-tools don't scale but rental does.

I can all but guarantee that you're using, daily, some tool that is free. Why aren't you paying $5 a day for it?

You've gotten more value out of bash, grep and related tools than IntelliJ is ever worth to you, and yet if I came up to you and said "here, use my replacement grep, bash, etc for only $5/day" you'd laugh.

Developers who aren't using the expensive tools aren't cheapskate like you assume; they're simply too tired to want or need another rental, because the marginal increase in time savings won't be noticed by them.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by willbw »

PostOnce wrote: post #695

You could take your $20 and buy garlic and a cross with it instead, and then you might be able to keep those fuckin' vampires at Microsoft out of your office. When you signed up for Github, did you imagine Microsoft would be selling all your code 5 or 10 years later? Do ya like ads in your file manager? How's renting a word processor on a monthly basis working out? Am I an old enough man to shake my fist at The Cloud…

Is this beat-poet anti-Microsoft thing a character or how you are in real life?
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