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Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by chromakode »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #203

I don't at all object to code reviews/evaluation, but the thing I wonder about is this: I rarely open an empty file and write some big block of code. 98% of the time I'm fixing bugs in legacy code or shimming in some new feature. It would be trivial to produce the diffs I generated in the past 30 or 60 days, but the volume of code isn't really a great metric for my productivity. There may be some three line change th…

"Making chalk mark on generator $1. Knowing where to make mark $9,999."

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/charles-proteus-stein...

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Post by baxuz »

alfor wrote: post #611
ipqk wrote: post #65

I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

There is a lot of cross pollination between his companies, that’s is fine: - new materials from SpaceX make it into Tesla cars - productions techniques from Tesla goes into SpaceX rockets - Semiconductor teams from Starlink probably connected to Tesla It mean the best engineers get even more opportunities. win-win Less red tape, more work get done. I think we should all embrace that. Our goal should be to make things…

And how does Twitter fit into Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink?

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Post by TheChaplain »

Tiktaalik wrote: post #46

I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

Comments like this makes me lose faith i humanity.

If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it.

But it's probably because I'm an old beard, who value being honest and ethical, to be the better person even if I'm in a room of degenerates.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by PeeMcGee »

beachy wrote: post #763
segmondy wrote: post #529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once reviewed code for a company that got purchased. I took less than a few hours to reach conclusion. There were 7 developers and in 2 months only one was writing code. The entire team but that one developer was fired. Twitter has grown a reputation for being slow and a rest and vest haven. Won't be surprised if they are looking for people not writing code. On a different note, If you're in a large org and all you…

> I once reviewed code for a company that got purchased. I took less than a few hours to reach conclusion. There were 7 developers and in 2 months only one was writing code. The entire team but that one developer was fired. Larry Ellison famously once said "if you aren't a developer, and you aren't a salesman, then tell me real slow just what it is you do".

Larry Ellison is also famously hated within the software community...

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by ekianjo »

ipqk wrote: post #65

I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

Why do you care enough to comment as a non stock owner? Got an axe to grind?

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Post by tgv »

TheChaplain wrote: post #783
Tiktaalik wrote: post #46

I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

Comments like this makes me lose faith i humanity. If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it. But it's probably because I'm an old beard, who value being honest and ethical, to be the bett…

> ... Twitter ... honest and ethical

That's, IMO, an absurd contradiction. If you value honesty and ethics, you don't work at twitter. It's detrimental to mental health and society, possibly more so than facebook, just for the money.

And now Musk might try to use it for his own political and financial agenda. If that risk is serious, running twitter into the ground might be the most ethical thing an employee could do.

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Post by giantrobot »

dylan604 wrote: post #193
nightski wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not pissed and I am a stockholder. To me it makes a lot of sense. I doubt they are reviewing the entire code base. It seems like Elon is particularly interested in the automated systems that control content and detect bots. To that end, Tesla has a lot of expertise in AI systems.

Are these the same Tesla AI experts that can't make FSD work?

Maybe they're the ones responsible for making the door handles work when the car is on fire. Or the ones that wrote the AI that runs over children or in front of trains.

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Post by thwayunion »

jiggawatts wrote: post #549
completelylegit wrote: post #346

Once upon a time at Tesla, Elon brought SpaceX staff in to weed out the undesirables. The autopilot team didn’t like being quizzed on basic c/c++ questions and that was the first time almost all of AutoPilot quit. Or so I heard.

If people developing a system that controls two-ton death machines get their panties in a twist about having to demonstrate basic competency in a memory-unsafe language… it’s probably good that they quit. Airline pilots don’t quit in a huff because they have to demonstrate basic competency annually.

This take might have more credibility if Tesla weren't facing criminal charges for its failure to deliver autopilot.

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Post by nxm »

dylan604 wrote: post #193
nightski wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not pissed and I am a stockholder. To me it makes a lot of sense. I doubt they are reviewing the entire code base. It seems like Elon is particularly interested in the automated systems that control content and detect bots. To that end, Tesla has a lot of expertise in AI systems.

Are these the same Tesla AI experts that can't make FSD work?

Because Waymo has been able to?

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Post by vore »

TheChaplain wrote: post #783
Tiktaalik wrote: post #46

I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

Comments like this makes me lose faith i humanity. If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it. But it's probably because I'm an old beard, who value being honest and ethical, to be the bett…

What is the point of this self-imposed honor when the person at the top is more than happy to play you as the fool?

Musk certainly didn’t act with much honesty or ethics in this deal, do you think he’s done an abrupt about face to suddenly be upstanding? And knowing that, being willingly taken advantage of only enables this poor behavior.

I can see your point if it was some kind of critical infrastructure like a hospital, but for Twitter I personally really couldn't care less.

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