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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I’ll one up you. I contend people here are simply average even in their domain of expertise, let alone anything outside of it. It’s not a special hideout for geniuses, it’s a generic forum not unlike Reddit. The only reason it appears the way that it does is via selective moderation.

I won’t argue with the point about not everyone being geniuses (I know a sample of one that isn’t). But the discussions here are still 100x more civil than all other alternatives. That, alone, makes it seem people are at least closer to the genius side of the spectrum.

I agree with the civility, but it's a consequence of strict moderation. Reddit has subreddits that are just as civil, also due to strict moderation.

On the other hand, what betrays this community as being not much more sophisticated than anywhere else is the low quality, trite, and reactionary comments (sometimes not even relevant to the information in the article) that don't get flagged or downvoted despite adding nothing to the discussion and having been repeated countless times in the same thread. It's clear people have strong biases and aren't afraid to air them out instead of discussing the posted content and they're supported by their peers who hold the same biases.

I started lurking here about 6 years ago and every year the comments have become more and more predictable (and not in a good way), exactly what I had noticed happening on Reddit until I stopped visiting because it had exhausted its usefulness to me.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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So he can MITM his son on WiFi and invade his privacy. I bet the day you can own a 5G AP at your home this guy is gonna MITM his son on that. Some people need insane control over their kids, for some reason.

Wrong. It’s to prevent video game/app addiction and well documented psychological issues. He gets straight As for a reason. I implemented this after he got hooked before, and grades tanked. Go project somewhere else.

> project

I'm the one here advocating for treating a 16 year old like an adult, warts and all, and you're the one secretly adjusting your son's behavior, so I'll stay right here and say what the fuck I want to.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I can run actual Firefox with ublock origin. or Bromite. or Brave. or anything really.

Wait, they can't run uBlock Origin on iOS? But the web without it is just unusable.

Nope. Firefox does not have extensions on IOS. There is some stuff like adguard that works but eh

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I remember when Steve Jobs said it would be an open protocol.

You misremember. It was Facetime which Jobs promised Apple would make into an open standard, in 2010. He died the week before Apple released iMessage. "And we're going to take it all the way. We're going to the standards bodies, starting tomorrow, and we're going to make FaceTime an open industry standard." - Steve Jobs, 2010 WWDC Keynote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxf9tEXEKQ

Oh dang. You're right. I misremembered it. Thanks for clarifying so I don't keep repeating it, haha.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Is that RCS having encryption or is that Google providing an extension to RCS only with their Messages app? And to what degree does RCS with encryption have buy-in from American carriers?

RCS is an open source protocol that can be run by different 'operators'[0]. So it's not so much as an extension, as Google's implementation of the protocol (which is open source and can be added by other operators). [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services

> RCS is an open source protocol

No, no it isn't.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Citation needed. Is this really true? I keep hearing about RCS etc but I also keep hearing it's not actually a good standard. Not even sure it does encryption frankly.

> https://www.android.com/get-the-message/ RCS is supported by most carriers, and over 500 device manufacturers. But not Apple.

*Only in the US. It has some adoption outside the US.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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> If you're talking about an unlocked smartphone that you can install apps on, there is absolutely no such thing as a new Android phone for $20 that any American consumer can buy. Or even close to it. Hardly anyone buys a phone unlocked in the US. Most buy carrier locked devices and at the low end, it's mostly prepaid. I just bought a Samsung A03 from target that was for prepaid carrier Total Wireless for $10. I didn…

Come on, that’s just not the “price” of a thing by any sane definition, or otherwise I would be very happy how cheap I got my home for..

Ok, I'll be sane. I bought a Samsung A03 at Target, off the shelf, in store for $20. It was on sale from it's regular price of $49.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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if you think your kid won't outsmart you, think again

He WILL outsmart me. It's inevitable, and my WiFi monitoring is intended not to find out what sites he visits (I don't care that much about that) but set up to notify me if he's found a way to bypass my nightime blocking and is doing what he did before, and playing video games in the dead of night. And it's still not foolproof. He can theoretically hack a neighbor's wifi, although the weak signal isn't ideal for gami…

your technique is probably less insidious than mine (forcing packet loss)

but yeah, controlling your kid's gaming habit is hard. I went off the rails and it probably cost me about half a million dollars in opportunity cost. Those games should be illegal/controlled, they use literal gambling mechanisms to hook kids

god speed

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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> What sucks about Xiaomi 12/12X [...] Does that Xiaomi model come without ads? The fact that I even have to ask that is an indicator on its own. > What sucks about [...] Pixel 6A for instance? But what's better? The price is pretty much the same.

Yes, there are no ads in Xiaomi phones, nobody force you to use preinstalled Xiaomi apps and there are no ads if you pay attention during setup and don't just click Next but read what's shown on screen. Brand new iPhone cost 380EUR without any plan same as 6A? Provide please link, I will make tons of money reselling them, thank you.

> Yes, there are no ads in Xiaomi phones [...] if you pay attention during setup and don't just click Next but read what's shown on screen

Enough said.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Because Android lets you run apps that iOS won't, including apps that you write yourself. Attestation is a security issue. If there's some useful feature you can't get on Android, that is a permission issue. It is silly to throw permissions out the window and allow apps to do absolutely anything. Instead, make an appropriate permission.

It's not permissions, those are fine. It's apps being able to tell the difference between a corporation's operating system and my own customized system. They should not be able to tell the difference. Unfortunately, hardware remote attestation makes it possible for them to know. Now apps will insist that you run the unmodified corporation's software. Bank apps will require attestation because of "fraud". WhatsApp wil…

> They should not be able to tell the difference.

And why not? If it's tampered with, it could have been tampered with by a malicious actor who can now lift your bank keys from the device.

Ultimately, it is about permissions. You modified your OS to do something you couldn't do on an OS that wasn't tampered with. If instead, the thing you wanted to do was available behind an appropriate permission, you wouldn't have had to modify your OS to begin with.

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