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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by pengaru »

olliej wrote: post #770
pengaru wrote: post #759

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> Twitter does what it does and people like it (as seen by the fact that they all use it) Last I checked not even half the US population is on twitter, not even close to half. Who is this "all" in "they all use it?"

The 217 million active daily users? It is "only" $~80 million in the US, I'd love to know how a quarter of the US population using it daily represents an insignificant user base.

> I'd love to know how a quarter of the US population using it daily represents an insignificant user base

I'd love to know which variant of the English language treats "all" as analogous to not "insignificant".

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by kerkeslager »

MisterSandman wrote: post #707
0xffff2 wrote: post #704

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While I agree with you, at the same time if Twitter as a company isn't really doing much, why do they have thousands of developers on staff? I don't think there's anything wrong with being a stable, profitable company, but logically it should also come with a whole lot of layoffs.

> at the same time if Twitter as a company isn't really doing much, why do they have thousands of developers on staff? ...to keep the app running? New devices, new standards, a lot of things change that you need devs to keep up with. Also, what's up with people saying twitter is stagnant? They've added Spaces, Twitter Blue and Crypto Profile Pictures - all 3 massive features added to their product. They're all trash,…

> They're all trash, but that's besides the point.

No, that's exactly the point. Just because you make something doesn't mean it was progress.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by kklisura »

fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

> They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed.

Why do you assume it's engineering problem? I think engineers at twitter are well capable to solve any problems, but it's just not a business need. The real problem are product owners/stakeholders/business people, incapable to transform, envision and lead at Twitter.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by LudwigNagasena »

smolder wrote: post #655
LudwigNagasena wrote: post #304

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That’s about culture in small tight communities, it’s not about monstrous billion people wide networks without any coherent identity of community.

I think while the effect was first noted in a relatively small community, the idea applies broadly to all sizes of open public forum, especially where things are organized chronologically. There's difficulty in developing and establishing cultural norms when there are constant new arrivals who can't have learned from past developments. That's what the term represents to me.

But there is no single public forum on Facebook and no single culture.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by nirav72 »

deanCommie wrote: post #690
fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

Counterpoint: Twitter is the only social network I use where I get an unfiltered balance of ideas big and small - CEOs and random Joes. It's where memes are born and proliferate everywhere else (other than TikTok). Twitter WORKS. If it's profitable, it doesn't need more growth. Facebook got ruined because it thought everyone's parents and grandparents should be on it, and now that's the only people on it. My parents…

People have deleted bad tweets and they still have gone viral.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by tomcam »

colinmhayes wrote: post #752
fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

> People have been begging for an edit button for a decade. And they haven't implemented it because it's a truly horrible idea. If you messed up your tweet delete it. If it's already got traction, then it shouldn't be changed, especially because the edit feature would mostly be used maliciously to cancel retweeters.

What if it’s accompanied with a history feature that shows all the tweet edits?

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by cyberlurker »

kerkeslager wrote: post #782
MisterSandman wrote: post #707

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> at the same time if Twitter as a company isn't really doing much, why do they have thousands of developers on staff? ...to keep the app running? New devices, new standards, a lot of things change that you need devs to keep up with. Also, what's up with people saying twitter is stagnant? They've added Spaces, Twitter Blue and Crypto Profile Pictures - all 3 massive features added to their product. They're all trash,…

> They're all trash, but that's besides the point. No, that's exactly the point. Just because you make something doesn't mean it was progress.

R&D is not useless.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by lemoncookiechip »

fleddr wrote: post #678

I think people are really over-analyzing this move. I think it's motivated by prestige, not money, nor is free speech the heart of the matter. Twitter is a stagnant company. They have thousands of engineers that in the span of a decade don't seem to produce much at all, nothing visible or memorable anyway. Long-lasting Twitter problems (culture, spam, algorithm issues) never seem addressed. User growth is stagnating…

> It doesn't take much. People have been begging for an edit button for a decade. If he'd get only that feature implemented, it will be remembered forever.

Funny you mention that: https://www.ign.com/articles/elon-musk-largest-twitter-share...

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by k__ »

singlow wrote: post #777
k__ wrote: post #506

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lol, what's the meaning of that? So he doesn't down the stock with his decisions and buys it cheap later?

OK, Elon, lets settle. Let's give you a board seat but you have to promise not to try and buy up controlling shares in the company and privatize it in a hostile takeover.

So, they really think he could improve the value of their shares?
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