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The country may be divided. But those divisions are manufactured and exacerbated over the last 4 years by a made-for-TV president. I couldn't help but think, in looking at various TV news channels this past week, that this is all sport. Big numbers on the score board and the play-by-play constantly flashing on the screens. We're the spectators, and the politicians are players on the field. Trump played the field bett…

Generally speaking, I would agree with you. However, it's important to remember that there is great economic angst in the United States. Workers' wages have remained relatively flat for 40 years, despite accelerating productivity and inflation.

Unless a Biden administration can begin to heal and make whole America's large working class, the angst will continue to grow and eventually boil over.

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post #712

The country may be divided. But those divisions are manufactured and exacerbated over the last 4 years by a made-for-TV president. I couldn't help but think, in looking at various TV news channels this past week, that this is all sport. Big numbers on the score board and the play-by-play constantly flashing on the screens. We're the spectators, and the politicians are players on the field. Trump played the field bett…

> We're actually all rooting for the same things here.

I don't think you understand half the country.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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post #712

The country may be divided. But those divisions are manufactured and exacerbated over the last 4 years by a made-for-TV president. I couldn't help but think, in looking at various TV news channels this past week, that this is all sport. Big numbers on the score board and the play-by-play constantly flashing on the screens. We're the spectators, and the politicians are players on the field. Trump played the field bett…

The division is manufactured by both political parties. It’s naive to think anything has changed.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Something that should be addressed as soon as possible is reducing the capacity of foreign actors to influence politics through organized trolling.

There has been a lot of gaslighting around this issue, but the fact is that the United States has been protected by two vast oceans for its entire history, but it opened a conduit into its heartland for foreign mischief-makers through Facebook and Twitter. Whether it helped Trump or not in 2016 (frankly, I think it probably did but it's exhausting to debate this so I won't) it does represent a gaping hole in America's defenses.

Until this election, there seemed to be a clear pattern (in the English speaking world anyway) that allowed one to reliably predict the winner of an election by seeing which side the trolls supported.

There are no First Amendment protections for Russian/Iranian/Macedonian click or troll farms. Detecting VPNs and other attempts to conceal traffic is not an insurmountable technical challenge, yet it isn't done consistently.

The seductive "Arab Spring" approach to letting free speech run rampant on social media turned out to be a mirage. Not only was the Arab Spring reversed in Egypt, based on my discussions with Egyptians, Facebook was turned into a tool of repression after the counter-revolution took hold.

(Yes, the irony of posting this from a throwaway account doesn't escape me, but there's a difference between clearly anonymous speech, and speech that misrepresents its source).

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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"Racist" mentioned in this thread dozens of times along with fascists all the usual derogatory buzzwords. Communist and woke both worryingly have less mentions considering the context. Bolshevism suprisingly has got no mentions considering what the YCombinator Alumni Michael Simon tweeted and the platform he set up. Anywho, I digress. I believe those in here to be intelligent and educated so I would ask you to take y…

The downvotes were expected in this place.

I just want whoever is reading to know everything you're seeing tonight is an illusion. There is no president elect until the officials appoint it according to Americas constitution. The concession that has not been received means a great deal.

This is the third coup attempt after Russia and impeachment and a lot of the people on this board are going to be savagely disappointed.

In addition I still can't believe this title stands. Interesting you would risk such bad press by perpetuating an actual lie on this delicate subject.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Most people (in this election) are more voting against something they hate rather than for something they actually like and want.

Why do people think the president is supposed to be a person to grant your every wish and fix all the problems in America?

It's an imperfect system. But at least we don't have someone in office who is actively trying to break it anymore, at least.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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It's amazing. My friends on the left think the only reason for voting trump is racism, and friends on the right think the only reason for voting biden is socialism. Where did all the intellect go? The social dilemma documentary I think is very useful. It feels like social media bubbles are a large component, although of course there have been many contentious elections in the past. Being centrist I can relate to part…

No. It’s that each side lets these things slide.

Many countries let a little socialism slide, with great results.

A little racism should never be allowed to slide. Racism is disgusting.

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