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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Nition »

ehsankia wrote: post #774
foundry27 wrote: post #686

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They just don’t get it. This isn’t a replacement for the SE, because it doesn’t actually improve on the things SE owners cared about improving. Things like an edge-to-edge screen and a kick-ass camera in the same form factor, not an iPhone 7 reboot with wireless charging and a faster CPU. What’s more, I know I’m not alone in saying I’d be willing to pay MORE for an ultra-premium small device like that than for any of…

Maybe us consumers underestimate how much space those internals take? The larger screen to body ratio would not only take more space in an already tiny phone, but the battery needed to power that would also need to be larger. The old SE had a 1600mAH battery... which is half of the 3000mAh+ even smaller phones have these days, and none of those lasts more than one full day. So we somehow expect them to take the exact…

They could always make it X% thicker. We used to fit 15mm thick phones in our pockets with no trouble in the old days. Not to say you're not making a fair point. Although if it came down to it, I'd still much rather have the old size even if it still had a 4" non-edge-to-edge screen.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by megablast »

Leherenn wrote: post #585
totalZero wrote: post #555

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It's almost as if a major world event convinced Apple management to optimize their product line for consumers who have less money to spend on devices. Not sure what could have caused that, though.

It seems unlikely this was the cause though, you don't design and manufacture a phone in 2 months. Also there had been leaks for months now. See this leak from back in January. https://m.gsmarena.com/updated_iphone_8_might_arrive_with_fa...

Well, it is not a new design. It is the same phone they have been making for 6 years, with a new chip and a new camera in it. I am sure it wouldn't take them that long to design it. And since they have been manufacturing them for 6 years, I don't get your point about manufacturing time.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Felger »

yabatopia wrote: post #268
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

> I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. There are plenty of compact and competent phones. A Samsung A40 for example is barely larger than this new iPhone SE, but has a 5.9 inch display. A friend wanted a smallish smartphone and she's quiet happy with the form factor.

I'm still using a A3 2016 with android 8 (4.7" amoled, good battery, audio jack and wow, a type-C USB connector), I would smply like the same one with a refreshed CPU/RAM/eMMC.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by karmelapple »

hajile wrote: post #247
coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

Just for reference for others, the Apple headphone adapter I've used with my iPhone XS is rock solid, and I've never had a problem with it.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by crazygringo »

Lio wrote: post #699
crazygringo wrote: post #365

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Well it's got wireless charging now so many people will essentially never use the Lightning connector ever.

It's slow though and somewhat inefficient compared to fast wired charging. I really wish they would just upgrade the Lightning connector to the industry standard USB-C port that Apple thankfully use on everything else.

It's tricky though. I don't wish that, simply because I don't want to have to upgrade my Lightning-connector dock, speakers, pencil, HDMI dongle, charging cables, and I'm probably forgetting a couple more things. When customers have invested in an entire ecosystem around a connector type, we really don't want to change more often than every 20 years or so.

And I personally don't care if it takes 1 hour or 7 hours to charge wirelessly, I'm asleep. The times when I need to emergency-charge during the day I can still use the port though.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by mr_toad »

coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

My AirPods are the best in-ear headphones I’ve ever used. I definitely don’t miss having a tangled fraying cable that gets caught on things.

Plus I used to go through at least one set a year because the mechanical stress on the cable would break them. In the long run AirPods are actually cheaper.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by philsnow »

camelNotation wrote: post #732
Razengan wrote: post #709

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> And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. iOS has its problems, but every time I have to handle somebody's Android (i.e. to help them do something faster than telling them), I want to give it back as quickly as possible.

I feel the same way when someone hands me an iPhone. In 2020, the operating systems are equally capable and refined, it's just a question of what you're used to. If you had a great Android phone for a few months, you'd probably be just as comfortable with it as you are an iPhone. When someone asks me what phone to buy, my answer is always "what phone do you have now?" because frankly, there is no reason to switch fro…

Setting aside the question of whether the OSes are equally capable and refined, the simple fact of the matter is that most android hardware (both by unique SKUs and by total deployed devices) is hot garbage. I have to remember to slow way down and wait for the UI elements to react to my input whenever I handle anybody's android phone.
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