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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#771

Disconnecting it from the internet isn't enough, because it will store spying data forever until it gets a connection, and it will connect to any open WiFi. You have to disconnect it from the power, and then use a sledgehammer on the remains.

I'd rather open it up and remove/destroy just the network card.

(I don't have to do so though because my tv is 20 years old.)

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#772

Disconnecting it from the internet isn't enough, because it will store spying data forever until it gets a connection, and it will connect to any open WiFi. You have to disconnect it from the power, and then use a sledgehammer on the remains.

I'd rather open it up and remove/destroy just the network card. (I don't have to do so though because my tv is 20 years old.)

What if the network isn't on a separate card?

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#774

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There are ads for ATV content.

No, there really aren't. I turn on the device, the app in the upper left is selected and showing some content from that. The device sits idle, I get drone footage of landscapes. If I accidentally bump the wrong button on the remote and get sent into the Apple TV (streaming service) app, sure it advertises producte, but in general there are no ads. In comparison, Google TV's homescreen is giant ads for content on serv…

>In comparison, Google TV's homescreen is giant ads for content on services I don't subscribe to

I enable app-only mode on my chromecast and does not see any ads.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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post #155

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> This. Why would you even connect TV to the network? I happen to have a NAS with family pictures I like to display. I can (and do) firewall that thing, but then you hit other issues like the apps you need to show pictures and movies in the first place not to install/run. I've yet to hear of a reasonable recipe to isolate and secure such connected TVs. And don't get me started on Chromecast or other Android dongles,…

Any SBC like Radxa Rock (cheap) to Orange Pi (powerful). 4k output, a linux you control, play retro games or stream torrent movies.

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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#776

My TVs (Samsung) are the only devices on my network that are locked down and quarantined. But I wonder if there will come a day when TVs contain cellular or satellite modems so you can’t block the telemetry.

> a day when TVs contain cellular or satellite modems so you can’t block the telemetry

finally my startup of faraday-cage rooms will boom /j

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#777

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather open it up and remove/destroy just the network card. (I don't have to do so though because my tv is 20 years old.)

What if the network isn't on a separate card?

That'd be the time to grab your hammer, baseball bat, or shotgun.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#778
post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This. Why would you even connect TV to the network? I happen to have a NAS with family pictures I like to display. I can (and do) firewall that thing, but then you hit other issues like the apps you need to show pictures and movies in the first place not to install/run. I've yet to hear of a reasonable recipe to isolate and secure such connected TVs. And don't get me started on Chromecast or other Android dongles,…

Any SBC like Radxa Rock (cheap) to Orange Pi (powerful). 4k output, a linux you control, play retro games or stream torrent movies.

Or just buy an old x86 mini pc from ebay, vastly more powerful and less headache.

Mine comes with i5 8500t, 16gb ram and 256gb ssd, and it was like $150.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#779

My TVs (Samsung) are the only devices on my network that are locked down and quarantined. But I wonder if there will come a day when TVs contain cellular or satellite modems so you can’t block the telemetry.

Some brands have TVs share Wi-Fi with each other, so even if you don't connect it to Wi-Fi, your neighbour's TV will silently share with yours.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#780
post #764

It is a screen. You plug an HDMI cable into your source device and another into the TV. Job done. Are there really that many people technical enough to know what an HDMI cable is without also knowing all TVs are subsidized by spyware with no security protections? Why would anyone connect a screen to the internet in the first place? Like, if suddenly computer monitors started asking for wifi credentials would everyone…

why would i want to have a second box to play my content when i can have it all in one. HDMI cables can only be so long before they get in the way. connecting the TV to a fileserver via wifi is awfully convenient. i also want to play stuff from my phone or my laptop (which is to far away to connect via cable), not to forget that streaming services require internet too.

so yeah, i totally want a wireless TV screen that is able to connect with all the devices in my house. but it's kind of difficult to achieve that without letting the TV access the internet. (not all home routers do not support blocking internet access to specific devices, and most people would not know that's how to do it)

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