The UK's war on anonymity has come to America • Hacker News Board

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by inigyou » Wed, Aug 12, 2026, 3:09 AM UTC

b112 wrote: post #573

inigyou wrote: post #409

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Have you really backslid from "modern militaries don't rape and pillage" to "modern militaries rape and pillage, but it doesn't count because it's illegal"?

Backslid? What on Earth are you talking about? If you read carefully, when pulled into deeper nuance, I'm consistently discussing what is legal behaviour for that military. Yes, there is a difference between "that military itself calls that act illegal" and "that military says it's OK to engage in that act". A massive difference. And at no point did I lump all "modern militaries" together. In fact I specifically talk…

Backtracked was the intended word

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by inigyou » Wed, Aug 12, 2026, 3:09 AM UTC

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #708

inigyou wrote: post #510

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> They are possible, not nevessary. The question was why they are necessary.

The question was why they exist.

Allow me to quote the question in question:

> So why are ID checks necessary

Why are you gaslighting HN?

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by inigyou » Wed, Aug 12, 2026, 3:10 AM UTC

trashb wrote: post #569

inigyou wrote: post #404

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So why are ID checks necessary at venues that serve alcoholic drinks in particular, out of all the venues that exist?

Because otherwise they can not serve alcohol. This is the law because alcohol is an addictive substance and more addictive if interacted with in younger years as your brain is not fully developed. And "we" as a society deem alcohol consumption problematic as it is associated with risks for other societal participants, like drunk driving accidents and domestic violence. Similarly why you can't enter a casino underage.…

What if the controversial topics were addictive and more addictive if interacted with in younger years as your brain is not fully developed?

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by CFI_Initiative » Wed, Aug 12, 2026, 3:11 AM UTC

hliyan wrote: post #262

There's a better network layer solution than trying to block visitors at every host or at the endpoint devices' OS/application layer. I know because a company in my country is already testing such a thing in private beta. A router firmware that provides two wifi endpoints per home, one for adults and one for minors. You only share the minors' password with your children. The firmware maintains a whitelist of sites (i…

It also provides addiction control features and network level integration to google safesearch, youtube, bing and duck-duck-go providing fool proof 24x7 protection. In fact any social media service could be integrated at network-level as long as that service facilitates child-friendly environment. Also when integrated with mobile core network solution, the child safety and usage policies follow the child in cellular data and home wifi data. Also it’s more than a whitelist. It maintains a list of over 130 million websites which are not suitable to children. Including malware sites. And this list is growing daily as they are classifying websites on the fly.

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by inigyou » Wed, Aug 12, 2026, 3:12 AM UTC

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #719

inigyou wrote: post #424

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You're doing the thing. The half I'm talking about, they don't make you scan your ID to use a computer. Actually I don't think even the worst ones make you do that. You're doing the slippery slope fallacy by saying "well if there are not terrible laws now that just means there will be terrible laws later." A law against murder doesn't mean there will later be a law against farting.

It's not a fallacy to point out the slope is slippery when you are actually, actively sliding down the slope. And that you're defending dumping a bucket of lubricant on the slope with the pinky promise that it's just for aesthetics, you just like the look of a slippery slope, there's no way we'll ever slide down your lubed slope that we are already sliding down.

There's a slope from making murder illegal to making farting illegal. We are already some distance down that slope because murder and burglary are illegal. But is the slope slippery?

Re: The UK's war on anonymity has come to America

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Post by CFI_Initiative » Wed, Aug 12, 2026, 4:09 AM UTC

chr15m wrote: post #254

The right people to protect children are those responsible for them - their parents and guardians. If there is a problem with children not being sufficiently protected, that is the level at which to solve it. Give families tools and information to do so.

How about looking at this from a different angle? All this time, we have been asking children to adopt to internet or giving parents tools and information to adapt children’s to the internet. Instead, what if we ask ourselves a different question in this age of AI? Can we not build an internet that adapts to children? And provide progressive digital wellbeing. Coz that’s what we have been doing in physical world for children. We build schools and playgrounds for children, set speed limits near schools, and even medicine is packaged specifically for children. But on the Internet, we do the opposite. Isn't it the time to reimagine the Internet for children?