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Maybe Google's decision to waste everyone's time and pollute the truth ecosystem by pushing half baked AI assertions into search was a mistake.
I quite like the ai/search thing - I like that there is a super accessible ai I can ask questions without infecting my ChatGPT history
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What’s with fascination with agi/superintelligence? It seems people working on it never had kids and just want to compensate for that. It’s a really horrible thing to try to “solve”.
I think death, and most extreme pain/suffering should be optional. Superintelligence, if done safely, lets us solve most of our problems.
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Looked up LessWrong. Eh, philosophy people, also known for that "Roko's basilisk" meme. I'm gonna pass.
Through no fault of our own, I should note. We're basically permanently associated with something Roko decided to post one day. We did not spread or popularize it; quite the opposite. The Basilisk has seen enormously more use as "a thing rationalists believe" than as a thing rationalists actually believe.
Apparently living on the net still doesn't guarantee that one has heard of the Streisand Effect.
In any case, my first association with LessWrong is Zizians, not Roko.
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Correct, but it was preview release. I was referring to GA in my comment.
Does that mean anything at all? They released it. Customers paid for it. Sticking a preview label on it doesn’t change that it was released
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Angular was an acquisition and isn't all that commonly used within Google. Closure was the homegrown framework that's everywhere. It is a different flavor of bad than Angular. Angular was basically "You too can make your Javascript look like HTML", Closure is "You too can make your Javascript look like Java", and nobody bothered to ask Why ? For that matter, React was "You too can make your Javascript look like Ocaml…
And then there's GWT which was "you can write webpages in Java." Yeah I never really kept up with the web frameworks there, just knew that for non-customer-facing things we were always recommended to use Angular, and that Wiz also exists.
This was now years ago, but the thing is when I raised this, it should have been triaged immediately. Clearly there were now cracks that needed fixing, people that needed disciplining / firing / and processes corrected.
Yes I know this woudl have been for "small business" but in my mind , this is indicative of a ROOT issues, like a hairline crack in a windscreen, that if not addressed end up with the utter fragmentation of trust both outside ( in smaller clients), INSIDE ( not doing their job, ganging up), etc. Years later the bigger clients start to get affected. I guess what I mean is institutional rot.
Now take into account there are people through the chain of command who are smart enough to realise but effecting change will just reduce their returns or job security ( like with the old tesla hardware setups) , so unless they are completely selfless for the sake of the company due to greatitude or long held stock, its just not worth the grind to try and correct.
The question remains, if google works, it works. And it has, for decades. Its magnificent. Sure I was burned but I can forgive them for that. My question is if there are powerful people who want google to succeed it would only take one good hire to keep an eye on things before they get out of control.
My suspicion is that perhaps that will organically come about with the advent of their own LLM tooling organically starting to do this for them .
So I guess I have no answers, perhaps they will find a way. I was certianly impressed by Gemini.
Sorry for the long possibly misdirected spiel.
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Maybe they enjoyed working with those people and don’t care about the status. It wasn’t so much snarky as just bluntly rude.