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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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What is going on at Anthropic? First, it comes out that on some specified subset of queries they will simply downgrade you to a different model. One example is if you are doing model research . Imagine OSX shutting down if it detects you’re working on software. And now they’ve decided that they’ll just shut off access to the model completely as part of what seems to be a sort of marketing stunt or temper tantrum. The…

Also what if you subscribed in reaction to the release of Fable? Now you're holding the bag and good luck getting reimbursed!

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

I see your point and share it up to a point… but how does it square with the full western economies gambling all or nothing on AI?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Well, does this mean that we’ve reached peak AI? If all models more advanced than Fable are restricted for public use by governments, then it will never get better than Opus 4.8 unless you have security clearance?

Yes plus Opus-class models will deteriorate with ads and user manipulation injected into them, until they lose their usefulness.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Why do I get the feeling that this is all a big PR stunt, because Trumps buddy want to boost the stock price before IPO, so they can get a gold plated exit ramp?

We are witnessing the largest stock manipulation by the United States government in history.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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I think we should see this as simply silly behavior by a government. Export control is not an effective tool for controlling a consumer facing technology developers everywhere want to use (see:VPNs) so there was no good faith policy justification for imposing an export control. This is an administration that seems to be keeping track of who its friends are and aren't, and likes to be the center of every story. They a…

Or that would be even a better excuse to ban the usage of VPN than csam

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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The systemic risk is that future bans will be much broader in scope and will impact more than one US-based provider. I really don't like that we're moving into a world where heavily AI-dependent economies can be effectively shut down either by the US government or the Chinese government at the stroke of a pen. This really is a forcing function which makes us question if the risks associated with large "cloud-based" models are worth it, and if we need to find out if we can do more with smaller, local models - and whether such research is now a matter of critical national security.
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