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German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by carlosjobim »

breppp wrote: post #739
carlosjobim wrote: post #724

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You - who ask for people to sacrifice their lives in the most horrific ways - don't even care to know the names of any of those who have done that before. To most people, these soldiers are just part of a nameless and faceless mass of flesh and meat to be utilized and expended. Who would want that to be his destiny? Certainly not you, because you are here on HN typing and not putting your life on the line to defend i…

I don't know, I served in my country's army so I have no issue saying that. You don't have to be the famous astronaut to be an anonymous part of the space program and participate in doing something worthwhile like getting a man to the moon. I am having trouble understanding your all-or-nothing argument, and apparently your need for worldwide recognition for an action to have meaning. In any case, I am sure you have d…

Then I wish you good luck when you're drafted to fight a war, or decide on your own volition to go fight. But I couldn't ask you or anybody else to make that kind of sacrifice. As most soldiers in history died for nothing - and killed for nothing.

Every man who refused to go to war and has progeny living today did something more worthwhile than those young soldiers - many of them true heroes - who died in the mud or the snow without having any kids of their own.

But I'm not anti-military, rather the contrary. But it should be for those who want to fight from their own free will - like many of the most successful armies through history.

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Post by samus »

dingi wrote: post #742
samus wrote: post #706

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The reality is that most women are simply not interested in raising more than two children per person. If this is undesirable from a societal perspective then they either need to be forced (which I hope you're not seriously suggesting) or the incentives to raise more children need to be increased (atm there are none except personal satisfaction) and the downsides need to be mitigated (without a stable career, women a…

Yeah right. Depending on their spouse is not ok but depending on whims of a soulless corporation is ok. Do you hear yourself?

Where do you think husbands get their money from?

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Post by guerrilla »

croes wrote: post #755
dudul wrote: post #750

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Sure, it is well known that in a divorce women just walk away with nothing /s A quick google search shows you that the average is 50/50 when it comes to the division of the assets. Why do you feel the need to lie about something so easy to verify?

It’s about pension and social security. Most people don’t have that many assets to live from when they (have to) retire. Why do you feel the need to change the subject? Try googling Pension entitlements women vs men.

> Why do you feel the need to change the subject?

Says the person who came here to derail the entire conversation.

You turned a men's issue into a dozen different women's issues (some real, some not).

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Post by dogemaster2026 »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #757
dogemaster2026 wrote: post #747

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They are not saying DEATH TO YOUR FRIEND. They are saying DEATH TO PFANNKUCHEN. How much more specific do you want them to be? Again, why would you let them get strong? Just so they kill you and your family? You don’t seem to care about yourself nor about your family enough.

In the analogy, if you are financially supporting guy A who is harassing guy B and his family constantly over years, and as a kicker guy A acts like he’s done nothing wrong, it is human nature for guy B to be pissed not only at guy A but also at YOU who financially supports guy A even while you know what he is doing. If you stop financially supporting guy A and sincerely apologize to guy B, and guy B continues to be…

Of course I am going to support Guy A because HE IS MY FRIEND or FAMILY.

But the fact remains your strategy will only lead to your death and your family’s. Which it would be good for your family to know.

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Post by nicbou »

localuser13 wrote: post #752
nicbou wrote: post #574

I have been living in Germany for 11 years and qualify for citizenship. This is exactly the kind of thing that has stopped me. If this country goes to war, I'm out. My presence here has always been transactional when it benefited Germany. It will stay transactional when it benefits me.

>My presence here has always been transactional when it benefited Germany. It will stay transactional when it benefits me. Because you're not a citizen. When you become a citizen you get more rights, but also some duties. Would you agree? I don't know your exact situation and I may assume things that are not true here.

I agree with that, so I choose not to become a citizen.

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Post by t23414321 »

vasac wrote: post #465
watwut wrote: post #441

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They dont need now. Germany is getting ready for being invaded by Russia, basically. They are also building mandatory military service.

Yes, the previous time they were getting ready it was because those pesky Poles being an inch away from invading the Third Reich.

Nonsense propaganda and NEVER true ! (but DARVO)

Poland never attacked any country first.

'pesky' it's quite easy the russian point of view !

- and vasac is spreading disinformation accordingly, here on HN.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Poland+ever+attacked+any+country+f...

(downvoted below for calling it: some nonsense propaganda ? - what it is indeed !)

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Post by AngryData »

layer8 wrote: post #550
wartywhoa23 wrote: post #529

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It's about time to finally grok that all world's military is only there to wage wars at the whim of the 0.001% under the guise of being defence-only, and that constitutions worth less than toilet paper these days.

So what's your proposed solution? Not have a military and just roll over when someone decides to attack you?

If the civilian populous has access to arms and armories they can make it a worthless proposition to invade them. Its not like the world is entirely composed of large countries with strong militaries already. An insurgency can last decades under fire from a superior force, an organized military won't. So if you can't match the organized military might of potential enemies, its probably mostly a waste to try.

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Post by MarsIronPI »

wat10000 wrote: post #770
MarsIronPI wrote: post #760

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Don't the TSA count as government agents? I don't have a problem with these checks, but I do believe the TSA does them, no?

TSA needs some form of ID but they’ll accept non-passport ID even if you’re traveling internationally.

Ah, that's right. But don't airlines check passports then? I vaguely remember needing to provide a passport at boarding time.

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Post by wat10000 »

MarsIronPI wrote: post #779
wat10000 wrote: post #770

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TSA needs some form of ID but they’ll accept non-passport ID even if you’re traveling internationally.

Ah, that's right. But don't airlines check passports then? I vaguely remember needing to provide a passport at boarding time.

Yes, that's what I said above. The US government doesn't give a toss, but the airline has to fly you back if you're refused entry at your destination, so they will do their best to ensure you have the documents you need.
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