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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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The disconnect here for me is, I assume the DoW and Anthropic signed a contract at some point and that contract most likely stipulated that these are the things they can do and these are the things they can't do. I would assume the original terms the DoW is now railing against were in those original contracts that they signed. In that case it looks like the DoW is acting in bad faith here, they signed the original co…

The administration's approach to contracts, agreements, treaties and so on could be summed up as 'I am altering the deal. Pray I do not alter it further.'

The basic problem in our polity is that we've collectively transferred the guilty pleasure of aligning a charismatic villain in fiction to doing the same in real life. The top echelons of our government are occupied by celebrities and influencers whose expertise is in performance rather than policy. For years now they've leaned into the aesthetics of being bad guys, performative cruelty, committing fictional atrocities, and so forth. Some MAGA influencers have even adopted the Imperial iconography from Star Wars as a means of differentiating themselves from liberal/democratic adoption of the 'rebel' iconography. So you have have influencers like conservative entrepreneur Alex Muse who styles his online presence as an Imperial stormtrooper. As Poe's law observes, at some point the ironic/sarcastic frame becomes obsolete and you get political proxies and members of the administration arguing for actual infringements of civil liberties, war crimes, violations of the Constitution and so on.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Wow, and the only restrictions Anthropic asked for are (1) no mass domestic surveillance and (2) require human-in-the-loop for killing [1]. Those seem exceptionally reasonable, and even rather weak, lol :| [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war

Trump doesn't want another election to happen. He needs some powerful tools to ensure that happens, ie, massive scale ai surveillance and manipulation. Eg, like Xi uses in China. I bet anyone here he starts a war as his excuse

The sad part is that I can't process whether your post is an exaggeration or the reality.

It's insane how numb I am becoming to these blurry thin lines

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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I don't believe they can change the name to Department of War without an actor Congress. It remains the DoD.

Well I think we have an actor congress

He is just a symptom. The problem is far deeper and more severe than just him.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Hint: It's much easier to have good PR by being actually good. Though it does make people like this do the whole implication thing.

Ah, right, by being actually good, as in - being okay with mass surveillance as long as it isn't being done in the US, being okay with Claude assisting in killing people as long as it isn't fully autonomous, and being actively hostile to open-weight LLMs and open research on LLMs? This kind of "good"? No, OP is right, their PR department is doing a great job.

How have they been hostile to open weight models and research? Just because they don't release models themselves?

Note that they are still releasing interesting research

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The Purpose of a System is WHAT IT DOES!

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/come-on-obviously-the-purpo...

> The purpose of a cancer hospital is to cure two-thirds of cancer patients... These are obviously false. The purpose of a cancer hospital is to cure as many patients as possible, but curing cancer is hard, so they only manage about two-thirds.

I don't see the contradiction here. The purpose of a cancer hospital is to cure as many patients as possible. "What it does" is cure as many patients as possible. The fact that as many patients as possible is currently (presumably) two-thirds is irrelevant. If major advancements in medicine or new types of cancer emerged which changed the percentage of people cured it wouldn't matter at all. "What it does" and "the purpose of the system" is still unchanged.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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> Good. I'd rather not have my favorite AI from a company working on AGI to have murder and spying in it's DNA. Anthropic made it quite clear they are cool with spying in general, just not domestic spying on Americans, and their "no killbots" pledge was asterisked with "because we don't believe the technology is reliable enough for those stakes yet". The implication being that they absolutely would do killbots once t…

I wouldn't say it's clear. People keep pointing to the wording used in the statement to say it, but I wonder if it has to do with constitutionally; domestic surveillance of people in the US without a warrant is against the constitution, and surveillance of non-citizens outside the U.S is not. Can they even be compelled by the executive branch to do an action that may be unconstitutional?

Sure they can. They can “temporarily” suspend parts of the constitution in times of “grave national peril”, and hand out presidential pardons in advance. But doing that would surely be considered dropping the last fig-leaf from the performance art of giving a fuck about the constitution.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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the entire administration negotiates in bad faith. literally every agreement they sign whether it's international trade or corporate contracts is up to the whim of a toddler with twitter

And they don’t think anything through. If they do this then Amazon, Google and the rest will need to terminate their involvement with Anthropic. Trump will be getting a call from some Wall Street bigwigs imminently and it’ll get rolled back, I bet.

Alternately, they COULD terminate their involvement with the pentagon.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Basically, if you are a federal contractor, the designation means the DoD can force you to certify that Anthropic tech is not used in the fulfillment of your government work. Because it's just a DoD designation, and an executive order and not added to the NDAA, you can still use Claude for non-government (federal) touching work. So using Claude Code to write software for the DoD is now a no go, you'd be in breach of…

That doesn’t seem to match up with the original tweet though - it sounds a heck of a lot stronger: > Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic Emphasis mine. And I’m looking at news organizations that presumably have staffs of legal analysts pouring over this stuff, and they also seem to be saying th…

Wait the liars who lie and don’t care about the law, lied and don’t care about the law?

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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The disconnect here for me is, I assume the DoW and Anthropic signed a contract at some point and that contract most likely stipulated that these are the things they can do and these are the things they can't do. I would assume the original terms the DoW is now railing against were in those original contracts that they signed. In that case it looks like the DoW is acting in bad faith here, they signed the original co…

I don't believe they can change the name to Department of War without an actor Congress. It remains the DoD.

Or all the stupid shit this regime has done, this is the most sane.

They want the department to fight wars. At least they’re being honest.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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I might be being a bit conspiratorial, but is anyone else not buying this whole song and dance, from either side? Anthropic keeps talking about their safeguards or whatever, but seeing their marketing tactics historically it just reads more like trying to posture and get good PR for "fighting the system" or whatever.

"Our AI is so advanced and dangerous Trump has to beg us to remove our safeguards, and we valiantly said no! Oh but we were already spying on people and letting them use our AIs in weapons as long as a human was there to tick a checkbox"

I just don't buy anything spewing out of the mouths of these sociopathic billionaires, and I trust the current ponzi schemers in the US gov't even less.

Especially given how much astroturfing Anthropic loves doing, and the countless comments in this thread saying things like "Way to go Amodei, I'm subbing to your 200 dollar a month plan now forever!!11".

One thing I know for sure is that these AI degenerates have made me a lot more paranoid of anything I read online.

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