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Sure it does. https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/14/on-elons-whim-x-now-treats... > If you write the words “cis” or “cisgender” on X, you might be served this full-screen message: “This post contains language that may be considered a slur by X and could be used in a harmful manner in violation of our rules,” the warning says. You can continue to publish the post or delete it.

Is a two year old article the only thing you have?

Re: Facebook is cooked

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My mother is an international flight attendant in her 60s. I recently caught a glimpse of her Facebook and I was shocked to discover a version of the website that seemed to be the platonic ideal of exactly what all the Facebook PMs intended. Her feed was filled with the photos of her friends and coworkers international trips and holidays, posts in groups for planning activities in her most frequented cities. But I di…

My Facebook feed is also like that (although with more underwater pictures of fish). It seems fine. I don't think I'm particularly privileged. I honestly don't understand the hate that FB gets here on HN. Maybe some users are just following the wrong accounts?

Re: Facebook is cooked

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I have two twitter accounts. On one I like indie games, ai stuff, Gaussian Splats etc and some other things and that is what my feed is filled. I discover so many good games here. I keep it that way by not watching and liking randomly recommended things. My second twitter account is full of crappy videos (fights, accidents and sometimes very horrific).

I have never seen things of my interest on Facebook ever. It is full male focused staged thirst crap. I log in to that account may be once or twice a year.

I think Facebook should be steerable like Twitter. I haven't tried because it's super clingy.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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100%. Whatsapp is still zuck, but it doesn't have a "feed" and that's the most important thing about it for me.

Now at the bottom it has a few tabs: Chats, Updates, ... Updates are broadcasted, but they disappear after 24 hours. Step 1) Keep updates for a week, later forever Step 2) Mix Chats and Updates Step 3) Add a few relevant patrocinated posts Step 4) Change the css from green to blue Step 5) Profit

Sería 'sponsored posts.' Como angloparlante nativo, tenía que comprobar que fuese una palabra de verdad 'patrocinate' (como 'patrocinado').

Re: Facebook is cooked

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I have a solution to this(and I've been talking about issues with the algorithmic social media for some years now). A POC I created during a hackathon populates your social media feed, but you define the algorithm using English language. Basically you can say, "I want to see more electricity related posts from Neil deGrasse Tyson. Show only family related posts from Bob Smith, but hide everything that is political". (Got second place out of 200+ participants)

The solutions leverages a social network with over 40 million users, so the network effect is already solved to a degree. If anyone has the means to spin this up into a business, let me know.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Yeah, isn't it only a relatively recent split - mid 20th century, I think? Before that, the term "economy" was only used as a synonym for thrift or a system of management or control (and "economist" tended to mean someone who wanted to reduce spending or increase restrictions on something).

Arguably Marx is the most important historical scientist when it comes to political economy. The methodology pioneered by him has been extremely influential. Reactionary liberalism, e.g. neoliberalism, Austrian school, that kind of thing, discards the 'mess' of interdisciplinary approaches and seek a return of a protestant worldview, riffing off of their use of the New Testament verses about "render unto Caesar". Thi…

Marx wasn't a scientist. He didn't follow the scientific method. He was a lazy pseudo-intellectual who cherry-picked particular pieces of history to support his preferred narrative.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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> So: is this just something wacky with my algorithm? No, it's not. Once Meta identifies you as male, you will get almost exclusively thirst trap posts no matter what you do. It started about two years ago. Some other interesting points: A woman posted on reddit recently saying she noticed her son's feed was filled with this stuff, so she created her own instagram account, identified as a man, and had the same feed.…

> Once Meta identifies you as male, you will get almost exclusively thirst trap posts no matter what you do. What if you're gay though. They have to be able to detect that somehow too

Then they'd undoubtedly show you hot guys. I don't know why this wouldn't be the obvious answer.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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The solution must be a social one: we must culturally shun algorithmic social media, scold its proponents, and help the addicted. We aren't going to be able to turn off the AI content spigot or write laws that control media format and content and withstand (in the US) 1st amendment review. But we can change the cultural perception.

It's really simple in the US: stop granting exemptions for the harm the content causes. Social media _is_ publishing. Expecting people to 'eat their vegetables' when only fast food is on offer is realistic, and flies in the face of all we know about the environmental drivers of public health.

Just because something is potentially harmful doesn't mean it should be illegal or otherwise prohibited.

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They fought a civil war over the labor required to produce tobacco.

> cigarettes never threatened democracy "Democracy" itself was not at stake in the American Civil War because both sides practiced it. The Confederacy was/would have been a democracy analogous to ancient Athens--one where slaves (and women) were excluded from political participation. The vast majority of Confederate politicians, including Jefferson Davis, came from the "Democratic Party"--which, true to its name, cha…

I think the point is a significant number of human beings were not participating in democracy at the time because their forced labor was critical to propping up the tobacco (and other) industries.

It’s hard to claim it’s actually democracy when it only exists after stripping the rights from a large section of people who would disagree with you, if they had the power to do so.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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The problem with this is that section 230 was specifically created to promote editorializing. Before section 230, online platforms were loath to engage in any moderation because they feared that a hint of moderation would jump them over into the realm of "publisher" where they could be held liable for the veracity of the content they published and, given the choice between no moderation at all or full editorial respo…

Moderation and recommendation are not the same thing.

The way modern social media platforms are designed, yes they are.
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