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Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by m11a »

bluelightning2k wrote: post #559

Reading these comments aren't we missing the obvious? Claude Code is a lock in, where Anthropic takes all the value. If the frontend and API are decoupled, they are one benchmark away from losing half their users. Some other motivations: they want to capture the value. Even if it's unprofitable they can expect it to become vastly profitable as inference cost drops, efficiency improves, competitors die out etc. Or wor…

Don't think that's a valid comparison.

Apple can do those things because they control the hardware device, which has physical distribution, and they lock down the ecosystem. There is no third party app store, and you can't get the Photos app to save to Google Drive.

With Claude Code, just export an env variable or use a MITM proxy + some middleware to forward requests to OpenAI instead. It's impossible to have lock in. Also, coding agent CLIs are a commodity.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by stogot »

andreagrandi wrote: post #567
super256 wrote: post #532

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI forces users to verify with their ID + face scan when using Codex 5.3 if any of your conversations was redeemed as high risk. It seems like they currently have a lot of false positives: https://github.com/openai/codex/issues?q=High%20risk

They haven't asked me yet (my subscription is from work with a business/team plan). Probably my conversations as too boring

Try something not boring and see what happens?

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Post by touristtam »

rjh29 wrote: post #185
mirzap wrote: post #155

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They are not losing money on subscription plans. Inference is very cheap - just a few dollars per million tokens. What they’re trying to do is bundle R&D costs with inference so they can fund the training of the next generation of models. Banning third-party tools has nothing to do with rate limits. They’re trying to position themselves as the Apple of AI companies -a walled garden. They may soon discover that screwi…

> "just a few dollars per million tokens" Google AI Pro is like $15/month for practically unlimited Pro requests, each of which take million tokens of context (and then also perform thinking, free Google search for grounding, inline image generation if needed). This includes Gemini CLI, Gemini Code Assist (VS Code), the main chatbot, and a bunch of other vibe-coding projects which have their own rate limits or no rat…

I can see it to be £18.95 from the UK, which is almost double that. I guess this is an oversight from your part or maybe quoting from memory.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by touristtam »

trymas wrote: post #288
gbear605 wrote: post #253

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I’m not familiar with the Claude Code subscription, but with Codex I’m able to use millions of tokens per day on the $200/mo plan. My rough estimate was that if I were API billing, it would cost about $50/day, or $1200/mo. So either the API has a 6x profit margin on inference, the subscription is a loss leader, or they just rely on most people not to go anywhere near the usage caps.

I use GLM lite subscription for personal use. It is advertised as 3x claude code pro (the 20$ one). 5h allowance is somewhere between 50M-100M tokens from what I can tell. On 200$ claude code plan you should be burning hundreds of millions of token per day to make anthropic hurt. IMHO subscription plans are totally banking on many users underusing them. Also LLM providers dont like to say exact numbers (how much you…

How's GLM treating you?

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by touristtam »

rglullis wrote: post #520

I just cancelled my Pro subscription. Turns out that Ollama Cloud with GLM-5 and qwen-coder-next are very close in quality to Opus, I never hit their rate limits even with two sessions running the whole day and there zero advantage for me to use Claude Code compared to OpenCode.

Is that on the $20 sub?

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by touristtam »

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #71
saganus wrote: post #5

Thariq has clarified that there are no changes to how SDK and max suscriptions work: https://x.com/i/status/2024212378402095389 --- On a different note, it's surprising that a company that size has to clarify something as important as ToS via X

> On a different note, it's surprising that a company that size has to clarify something as important as ToS via X Countries clarify nation policy on X. Seriously it feels like half of the EU parliament live on twitter.

Which makes the whole 'EU first' movement looks super weak when the politicians are part of the worse offenders.

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Post by touristtam »

sawjet wrote: post #35
saganus wrote: post #5

Thariq has clarified that there are no changes to how SDK and max suscriptions work: https://x.com/i/status/2024212378402095389 --- On a different note, it's surprising that a company that size has to clarify something as important as ToS via X

What's wrong with using X?

ideologically or practically?

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by touristtam »

serf wrote: post #22
mapontosevenths wrote: post #12

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Opencode as well. Folks have been getting banned for abusing the OAuth login method to get around paying for API tokens or whatever. Anthropic seems to prefer people pay them.

its not that innocent. a 200 dollar a month customer isn't trying to get around paying for tokens, theyre trying to use the tooling they prefer. opencode is better in a lot of ways. tokens get counted and put against usage limits anyway, unless theyre trying to eat analytics that are CC exclusive they should allow paying customers to consume to the usage limits in however way they want to use the models.

> opencode is better in a lot of ways.

I use opencode everyday; can you explain how claudecode is much different and what it lacks?

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by skeledrew »

notpushkin wrote: post #769
skeledrew wrote: post #759

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Because anyone can actually check the code, which means if there's any funny business, someone will come across it eventually and blow it open.

There probably wouldn’t be anything funny-looking – it might look like a genuine mistake in implementation that burns 2× or 3× tokens somehow (which, considering OpenClaw is vibe coded in the purest sense of this term, would blend right in).

Regardless, such things would eventually be found. Just as OpenClaw was tasked with finding and improving science repos (though unwelcome), it could - and very likely will - be tasked with improving its own codebase.

Re: Anthropic officially bans using subscription auth for third party use

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Post by BoorishBears »

stavros wrote: post #424
BoorishBears wrote: post #206

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The SDK is Claude Code in a harnesss, so it works with your credentials the same way CC does. But they're stating you can only use your subscription for your personal usage, not someone else's for their usage in your product. I honestly think they're being short sighted not just giving a "3rd party quota" since they already show users like 4 quotas. If the fear is 3rd party agents screwing up the math, just make it l…

How can they be clearer that the Agents SDK is not allowed? > OAuth authentication (used with Free, Pro, and Max plans) is intended exclusively for Claude Code and Claude.ai. Using OAuth tokens obtained through Claude Free, Pro, or Max accounts in any other product, tool, or service — including the Agent SDK — is not permitted and constitutes a violation of the Consumer Terms of Service.

Confidently incorrect, personal usage of Agent SDK is powered by logging into Claude Code: you are not logging into the SDK (or your own application).

What's not allowed is offering OAuth authentication in your own product built with the SDK: https://x.com/trq212/status/2024212380142752025?s=20

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