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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by mktk1001 »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #253
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…

I think the more concerning thing here is the US government attacking people of different ethnicities.

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Post by fudged71 »

It's insane right now browsing tiktok and seeing every 3rd or 4th video on my feed have consistent glitches (in the same places of a video, as if my internet was slow which it isn't), on only the videos mentioning resistance topics from the US. Very black mirror. Feels like it's meant more to send a message that your content is flagged, and to watch what you say and do. Otherwise they would just block it or hide it from your feed.

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Post by conductr »

pjc50 wrote: post #298
conductr wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity. What do those videos mean to an average Chinese person? What are the opinions of illegal immigration over there? How do they police it? (If at all). Does this look like normal government activity? Or are they appalled at the lack of “freedoms” in America? I am truly naive on their culture or politics around this and how they would use it to show the US as boogeymen government and how their governmen…

Don't forget that the regular operation of Chinese policing is already much less free than what Americans are used to, plus the restrictions on internal freedom of migration (Hukou, less onerous than it used to be, plus the two SAR of Macao and HK). Mandatory state-issued ID, linked to your phone and bank account and so on. As well as racial profiling. There's not that much immigration to China in the first place, le…

That’s kind of my point. through their eyes, is any of this really shocking at all? is kind of my question.

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Post by loudmax »

Under the current administration, the US is in the process of throttling long term economic growth, cutting itself off from its traditional allies, and pulling back as a global power. China's Communist Party has the most to gain from the end of American greatness.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by WarmWash »

southerntofu wrote: post #763
WarmWash wrote: post #716

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A large percentage of Americans are convinced that police will just shoot them if they happen to feel like it. Even including ICE in this statistic, you will never even meet someone who knows someone who was murdered by a cop. Police encounters that turn deadly, not even blatant murder, are on the order of 1 in 50,000. However, that stream of police murder videos are definitely real. Propaganda is often stoking tiny…

> police will just shoot them if they happen to feel like it. Well that's exactly the problem. There's nothing stopping them: no accountability, no justice. Many cops just don't feel like randomly shooting people, and that's good. The problem is if they do, and even if they brag about it, little will be done. Take for example the latest Sainte-Soline repression scandal revealed a few months back by Mediapart [1] wher…

Being killed by police is different than being murdered by police.

Police in the US kill somewhere around 1000 people a year. But of those, it's something like 5-10 that are murders. There is maybe 1 every few years where the cop is itching to shoot someone who is clearly compliant and not a threat.

The 990 police killing videos that become available every year now are not particularly compelling, because its bad actors trying to kill police and getting themselves killed.

Sorry, I don't know anything about France and police though. The US has a different dynamic because guns are everywhere, especially where crime is. Every cop knows about the ~50 cops who are killed by guns every year.

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Post by ryandrake »

garciasn wrote: post #688
elcritch wrote: post #682

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Nice subtle twisting of words. There’s an enormous difference between driving slowly through a crowd of protestors with no injuries versus running over protesters with a tank.

I didn't twist anything. If anything, I would argue YOU are twisting words of the original comment to which I responded: >> the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles > I'm sorry, did I miss something? Is this something that's happened (ever)?

It's the first three lines of the Narcissists Prayer[1]

    That didn't happen.
    And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
    And if it was, that's not a big deal...
1: https://www.thelifedoctor.org/the-narcissist-s-prayer

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Post by atomic_reed »

elektronika wrote: post #732
kurthr wrote: post #639

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The persecution of Uighurs continues apace. Even if it is not allowed to be called genocide on TikTok. The political elements to this are pretty obvious, but conflating two terrible Minneapolis ICE killings in 3 weeks to the horror that occurred in Xinjiang is beyond the pale. While we may go down the authoritarian path with a Clown King, we're still at least 10-15 years behind China. https://www.rfa.org/english/uygh…

Radio Free Asia is USA funded propaganda.

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #751
rurp wrote: post #453

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Right, if a future democratic president starts sending masked government thugs out to assault and kidnap American citizens we all know that 100% of the people who are defending the current ICE atrocities will suddenly be outraged about government tyranny.

I would be remiss if I didn’t suggest everyone go watch the Watchmen series on HBO

Honestly, and I say it without a shade of irony, it might be for the best, if the collective 'we' stop attempting re-enact fictional events and lives in alternate worlds. It would do everyone, and I do mean everyone, a good solid needful, should they just stopped and thought about what they are doing and the likely course of the events given their actions.

It would be orders of magnitude more productive if we did that.

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