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Post by mgh95 »

LunaSea wrote: post #672
mgh95 wrote: post #449

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> Ontario alone has a larger GDP than 45 of the 50 US states, and a bigger GDP than New Hampshire, Hawaii, West Virginia, Delaware, Maine, Rhode Island, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska, Wyoming and Vermont put together. This is not correct as of 2024. In 2024, Ontario had a GDP of CAD 1.17B. [1] In USD, this is (at .73 exchange rate, which is favorable for these calculations) this comes to US 854B. In 202…

The dollar losing its value probably makes it correct again now since early 2025.

The dollar strengthened against the CAD in 2025 compared to the figures I used. It really only weakened against the EUR and RMB.

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Post by JCattheATM »

terminalshort wrote: post #769
JCattheATM wrote: post #762

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And for that you threw the entire country away? Based on mostly fear and misunderstanding? There was another user I saw on here who defended voting for T because, despite apparently having always voted D in the past, he "could not look his white teenage sons in the eye and tell them he voted for people that would make them the enemy" - what absolute nonsense. DEI may have gone too far in some areas, but that would la…

DEI went too far the second it violated the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which explicitly bans all discrimination based on race in hiring. It doesn't matter if Biden or Harris or any other democrat leader didn't explicitly initiate any of these policies. Their failure to prosecute for these obvious (and sometimes even publicly bragged about by the companies) violations of civil rights law that is supposed to protect me i…

The fact that you are white and claiming to be a victim of racism because minorities are getting more opportunities is laughable, but also absolutely means you were part of the problem.

The only way for the US is to progress is to eliminate the electoral college so views such as yours count for as little as they should.

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Post by dlahoda »

swiftcoder wrote: post #191
dlahoda wrote: post #22

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Will not. You should love to move youself to pay 30% more taxes and work for 30% less salary (not sure what percentage to apply first).

> pay 30% more taxes This is scaremongering - taxes are in no way 30% higher in EU. Someone pulling mid-6-figures in the Valley is already paying a ~35% effective tax rate (state + medicare + federal). That same person taking a low-6-figures job in Spain would pay ~40% effective tax rate - and Beckam's Law would likely cut that to 24% for the first 6 years in any case

first, one have to prove he is 24 not 40. taxes can tell 24 and tell you do 40 becauses they decided so.

add social security percentage. while one still need real insurance and pension saving on top. yes, one 6 figure person have to pay two times. once for self and other one unemployed local drunk.

and on top, when one buys anything, all things are taxed 2x compared to usa(but i guess trump tries fo equalize that).

on top. there are prices for locals and foreigners. one will pay 2x for coffee, rent, parking, all.

and yeah, one is foreigner? does not know hidden language of locals? wait in all queues 2x longer. so social security medcine is something one never sees.

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Post by stopbulying »

softwaredoug wrote: post #113

Americans fail to appreciate a few things about our economy 1. We have a large homgoneous market where you can build a product and it’s expected it can succeed for hundreds of millions of Americans 2. EU is the easiest second market, and another step change of hundreds of millions of customers in a somewhat unified market 3. there’s not an easy 3rd economy that replaces EUs wealth, population, and comfort with Englis…

> When we piss everyone off in the EU tech company growth gets kneecapped and limited to US / Canada.

The Internet Research Agency worked to get Trump elected in the US. Putin paid them to push Trump here.

Has Russia won EU tech by foreign interference in the US?

FWIU Yandex is operating out of EU now?

"Russian Court Imposes $2.5 Decillion Fine on Google" (2025) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD44zqhCnMo

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Post by xp84 »

watwut wrote: post #717
arjie wrote: post #535

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That is a sound point. I don't think your comment should be grey. In practice, I don't think geopolitics is played in the style of "Yurusenai!" that a lot of online commenters make it sound like. The world wasn't in some benevolent kumbaya between the various players involved here. America perhaps pioneered the mutual-defense agreement as an expansion of de-facto borders. America can attack you if you attack any of i…

> So long as Europe benefits from America and America benefits from Europe and both can put in changes that cement such commitment in the future, I think we will return to a powerful Western bloc - which I (personally) think is good for all humanity. Problem is, right now America is the biggest threat to Europe. And there is no way to cement the commitment you talk about with America as is - regardless of whether Tru…

> America is the biggest threat to Europe

Preface: Trump's idiocy with Greenland is inexcusable and nonsensical, with NATO already having access to build bases all over that island with barely more paperwork than building them in Alaska. So don't read this as a defense of that BS.

1. Greenland isn't even in Europe and America has no designs on colonizing actual Europe

2. Even Trump in his syphilis-addled head knows that the moment he rolls tanks into a territory with basically no military and a peaceful non-threatening citizenry, his credibility. And this sure isn't Venezuela, where the Nobel Peace Prize winner thanked him for removing the criminal Maduro from his post. He let his dumb mouth get ahead of him when he didn't rule out force, and he was forced to walk that back, a remarkable thing considering his pride. Now, even if he does want to try to use more dumb tariffs, those will hurt the US as much as it does Europe. I wouldn't say these are any major threat to Europe.

On the other hand, Putin would very much like to expand a couple countries over, and geopolitically anyone will tell you that Russia "needs" that in order to have a defensible frontier. America is not a threat to Europe the place. Trump wants to cosplay as a threat to Europe the technical political entity, mainly because our map projections make Greenland look so big that he thinks it will make him a "hero President" in the history books forever, but even most Republicans know this is a stupid and pointless ambition.

The Republicans who make up a lot of the party are not interested in Greenland being US territory, they don't even give a shit about territories we already have like Puerto Rico. They just hate the DNC, whose idea of campaigning is saying that everyone who disagrees with them is a bigot.

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Post by 5-0 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #487
dgxyz wrote: post #263

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No. No one really gives a shit about AI other than the tech industry and vocal CEO culture which is just using it to bury recession and regular lay offs. Otherwise it's novelty value and frustration but no one is going to use it or pay enough for it to be viable as an economic backbone. There are many more important things to consider. Like literally everything else society sits on top of.

AI is great at translating, doing a task in seconds which would take days. For almost no cost. That is quite significant on a continent like Europe, with dozens of different languages.

The end-user costs are slim to none, but for OpenAI alone they're hundreds of billions USD.

LLMs certainly have their use and are here to stay but it remains to be seen how they can be commercially successful without constant injections of venture capital.

These days even the French (!) speak English.

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Post by terminalshort »

JCattheATM wrote: post #772
terminalshort wrote: post #769

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DEI went too far the second it violated the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which explicitly bans all discrimination based on race in hiring. It doesn't matter if Biden or Harris or any other democrat leader didn't explicitly initiate any of these policies. Their failure to prosecute for these obvious (and sometimes even publicly bragged about by the companies) violations of civil rights law that is supposed to protect me i…

The fact that you are white and claiming to be a victim of racism because minorities are getting more opportunities is laughable, but also absolutely means you were part of the problem. The only way for the US is to progress is to eliminate the electoral college so views such as yours count for as little as they should.

Yeah you're right, I'm gonna be a big problem for you because I'm going to keep voting for Republicans no matter how much I hate some of the stuff they do. And the more cruelty towards progressives the better because I have nothing but contempt and malice for the people who want to institute racism against.

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Post by tjwebbnorfolk »

joe_mamba wrote: post #615
tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #528

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Watch Trump's meetings with NATO from 2016-2019 on Youtube. He's saying exactly the same things about Europe, but nicer. Nice didn't work. Even Russia invading a European county didn't work. Europe's head has been firmly planted in the sand for too long.

When the US points out faults with what EU is doing, the EU just digs its heels deeper out of spite, instead of self reflecting that maybe the US might be right.

yea even the Europeans are susceptible to TDS it seems

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Post by JCattheATM »

terminalshort wrote: post #777
JCattheATM wrote: post #772

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The fact that you are white and claiming to be a victim of racism because minorities are getting more opportunities is laughable, but also absolutely means you were part of the problem. The only way for the US is to progress is to eliminate the electoral college so views such as yours count for as little as they should.

Yeah you're right, I'm gonna be a big problem for you because I'm going to keep voting for Republicans no matter how much I hate some of the stuff they do. And the more cruelty towards progressives the better because I have nothing but contempt and malice for the people who want to institute racism against.

> Yeah you're right, I'm gonna be a big problem for you because I'm going to keep voting for Republicans no matter how much I hate some of the stuff they do.

You obviously don't hate it that much lol, you clearly want white people to keep the unfair advantages they have had for most of modern history.

They wrote a book about people with you views: 'White Fragility' - you should check it out.

> And the more cruelty towards progressives the better because I have nothing but contempt and malice for the people who want to institute racism against.

Giving oppressed people equal opportunities isn't racism. We'll get rid of the EC eventually, and the votes of people like you simply won't matter.

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Post by solidsnack9000 »

holowoodman wrote: post #628
solidsnack9000 wrote: post #536

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It really did not mean that -- it meant to increase spending to the targets set by NATO and to meet realistic defense needs. A lot of EU weaponry was and is produced in the EU and the US has known that all along, cooperated and fostered it. The Leopard tank, the Eurofighter, the Rafale, the Lynx, the FV432, the Gazelle -- there is a long list of domestic weapons systems. I'm not sure if they still can do it, but the…

> I'm not sure if they still can do it, but the English made nuclear submarines. Not really. The Polaris and Trident SLBM systems as well as the nukes they carry are US designs that the UK is allowed to use. And while their current PWR2 reactor is a British design, it is lacking. Therefore the next PWR3 design will be based on US S9G reactors.

The Trafalgar class were nuclear attack submarines made at Barrow-in-Furness shipyard in Cumbria. The current Astute class were also made there.

A nuclear submarine is one with nuclear propulsion, not nuclear weapons (just like a diesel-electric submarine is one with a diesel engine and batteries, not diesel weapons).

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