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Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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> Yogurt rose the most, followed by fresh fruit, nutrition bars and meat snacks. I would guess that this is because people are replacing full-blown meals with smaller snacks. The meat snacks is probably because people are warned about losing muscle mass. Perhaps this affects yogurt consumption as well. > Notably, about one-third of users stopped taking the medication during the study period. This seems pretty high co…

A common reason people quit is that they miss the pleasure that eating previously gave them.

That’s why I quit soylent.

Now all I eat is chicken, and potatoes (regular and sweet) with avocado oil, and drink water. Salt is a bit of a problem because I use too much.

Easy to lose weight or maintain it when you eat one meal a day ime

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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> Yogurt rose the most, followed by fresh fruit, nutrition bars and meat snacks. I would guess that this is because people are replacing full-blown meals with smaller snacks. The meat snacks is probably because people are warned about losing muscle mass. Perhaps this affects yogurt consumption as well. > Notably, about one-third of users stopped taking the medication during the study period. This seems pretty high co…

A common reason people quit is that they miss the pleasure that eating previously gave them.

Yes, you need to find other pleasures in life. Use the clearer head space to figure out the emotional reasons for enjoying food so much.

Or just spend a long time in the Netherlands and they can teach you how people who enjoy food are indulgent and weird and therefore bad.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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>The share of U.S. households reporting at least one user rose from about 11% in late 2023 to more than 16% by mid-2024. I was wondering how you could get such a high impact overall. But it seems one in 6 households are on GLP-1 drugs in the US. In my friend circle in Germany I don't even know one single person on this stuff. It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them…

I started a GLP-1 in October. I've been eating healthy and exercising for a decade, but I was still in the obese category and blood sugar tests indicated I was at the edge of pre-diabetes. If I pushed hard on calorie reduction or exercise, I could gain 10-20% improvement, but it seemed like that would always reverse itself when I'd hit an injury or got sick. I'm hitting my mid-40s and decided it was time for a drasti…

My dad was in a similar situation a couple months ago. He has been very obese for decades, which started after he stopped smoking. He does not eat fast food, has long ago cut out sugar and he favors whole foods in his diet. It was getting a shock blood sugar result and diabetes warning that pushed him to take Mounjaro (similar to Ozempic) that actually cut his weight down.

In his own words, what he noted as being the main contributor to his obesity was the moment to moment urges to just eat something (I empathize with that a lot - I'm also obese). Losing that desire made sticking to good portions and fixed calorie intake windows much easier. He has lost ~50kg of weight in the last year and now walks and bicycles around everywhere for hours every day.

I wish you luck!

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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1 in 12 is wild. That means about 50% of all obese germans are on GLP-1s.

Are overweight but non-obese people unable to get GLP1s in Germany?

Yes, anyone is able to 'get' GLP1 analogs, but your BMI and comorbidities (as well as purchasing power) determine the 'how' and the cost.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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I’m a recovering alcoholic. I’m almost positive that the effects of alcohol are wildly different between the two of us. When I drink my brain spits out more reward chemicals than I know what to do with. It makes me feel extremely energetic and creative. It inflates my sense of self-worth and gives me confidence. It’s genuinely more enjoyable than sex. And that’s how it dug its claws in, because almost all of those go…

Definitely. Alcohol just makes me confused and sick, with no upsides to it. I'be been told that I must be drinking incorrectly, and given advice how to drink correctly, but no, no positive experience with it for me. The funny thing is, I actually like the taste of it (it tastes kind of minty to me, while most people claim it tastes bitter) but the effects are pure poison.

Funny, I could place myself directly in middle of you two. When I drink, I feel pretty great at the beginning and it gets progressively more tiring and confusing with more drinks (but you still crave it, it being effectively a drug). Then the next day is just wasted time because of the hangover.

So while I liked to drink more with friends in the past, now I do so less often. And when I do, I tend to overthink how much I should drink not to feel bad later. So usually I just don't drink much, with more time between days when I drink (currently I'd say it's weeks inbetween).

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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There are valid counterarguments to the overweight values, a lot of women who might be overweight are healthy because different % of fat are acceptable depending on the structure of the body. I agree, that has to do with "malbouffe" and other lifestyle choices. As for offering them that is a nice thing, but I am curious about the mechanics (mutuelles) and such of the medicine.

> There are valid counterarguments to the overweight values, a lot of women who might be overweight are healthy because different % of fat are acceptable depending on the structure of the body But the BMI takes into account the mass, not the size. Usually women have less lean muscle mass than men, which would mean that for a given size and weight, they'd have more fat, without influencing the BMI. I also think there'…

"a dude like Schwarzenegger is probably well in the overweight category"

For illustration, Arnold was 107 kg at 1m88 at his prime, giving him a BMI of 30.3, which is clinically obese. But yeah, LOL at all these people with 130 cm waists going 'BMI is useless'.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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> It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them in the US The American diet is insane, full stop. However, I've just begun a GLP-1 regimen to address a willpower problem, not a nutritional problem. I'm not quite young anymore and have given lots of other approaches a shot over the years, but have persistently failed to achieve a weight that is not a threat to my health.…

And crucially, many of those bad foods can be pretty addictive. They’re quite literally engineered so that you want to eat a lot of them and buy more. So it’s not surprising many people struggle to change that habit when the food ecosystem is working against you. Junk food both tastes better and is easier to eat than home-cooking a very healthy meal. You’re not exactly set up for success here.

Sugar, salt and fat in the perfect combination makes _anything_ tickle an ancient part of your brain, making you crave more of it.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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I don't think it's natural (in the sense of defining health) for adequate homeostasis to require special rituals and constant attention.

Agreed 100%. I think if your strategy for maintaining a good diet relies on weighing food and counting every last calorie, you are inevitably going to fail. Something more fundamental, natural, habit forming, whatever -- that will be the right answer. Naturally trim people don't count calories to stay that way, either.

Of course naturally “trim” people don’t count calories - they don’t have to. Just like I don’t have to monitor my blood glucose level, but my Type 1 diabetic friend does.

You can’t apply to habits of one physiologic group to a different group and expect the same results.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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I am not American, but I think you are unfairly dismissing the massive benefits GLP-1s have for people who struggle to maintain a healthy diet. It really feels like a miracle drug. > It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them in the US. Your comparison of your friends in Germany vs "insanity" in the US doesn't feel relevant

I think you are misreading the comment you are replying to: > Your comparison of your friends in Germany vs "insanity" in the US doesn't feel relevant It's incredibly relevant, why are GLP-1s less needed in Germany vs. US (and other countries like Canada)? This is the insanity they are talking about, not the users of the medication.

You seem to be misreading his comment. Some guy making some observation biased comment is irrelevant. It's flat out wrong that Germans 'need' it less. The obesity curve in Europe trails that of the US a generation or two, yes (and several Asian ones trail it more). But the numbers and trends don't lie.
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