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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by alistairSH »

Ugh, this caught me as well.

And it's not just Tahoe. The various iOS/WatchOS updates from the fall are all broken in one way or another.

For example, WatchOS's music app can't play more than 2-3 songs from a downloaded playlist without crashing.

The WatchOS Outlook app won't launch (which also means the watch face complication is broken).

iOS Safari's search bar/address bar periodically freezes after you enter a search term. If you click the bar, the search term disappears, so you have re-type it.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by otikik »

I have realized that I only need 3 window sizes: maximized, minimized, or half-of-the-screen vertically. Rectangle [1] is a great way to get key combinations for resizing and moving my windows around. It works well across multiple monitors and it's free. I didn't even notice this issue, but I see how it could be problematic for people.

https://rectangleapp.com/

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by atommclain »

pete1302 wrote: post #685

IMO: There should be 2 update channels, Security updates(MANDATORY), (no reason to be mandatory). end of discussion.

I was just looking into this today. I want to keep my computer updated with the cli tool softwareupdate. Before I was using the flag --all to apply any update, but then tried to change it to --recommended as I wanted to avoid any major macOS upgrades (ie Tahoe). But Tahoe is listed as a recommended upgrade.

Now I call it with --required which only applies critical and security updates. Then I call it again with --safari-only, and one more time with --list to see what remaining updates are available. Frustrating (but sadly not surprising) there isn't a way to apply all available updates excluding major OS updates.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by systemtest »

morshu9001 wrote: post #659
systemtest wrote: post #643

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using OS X since 10.4 Tiger. I still remember standing in line at midnight trying to get a copy on DVD. Getting to test all the new features back home in the middle of the night was so exciting! Well worth the €129/€29 they charged for it. Nowadays the yearly releases are more of a "meh". I hit install, they added a new grouping feature to Reminders and that is about all I use from what they added. Still…

I used that same MacBook until 2014. At least Snow Leopard was a gem.

I used it up till 2011. It had multiple top-cases replaced under the extended warranty, display CCFL was changed a few times due to flickering, disc-drive got swapped once, new logic board because the audio-jack was stuck on SPDIF, new power adapter.

The only device I ever got Apple Care on and I got thousands in repairs covered for free. This was from before Apple would just replace the entire device.

All my other MacBooks have been trouble free luckily.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by JanNash »

Nextgrid wrote: post #646
Razengan wrote: post #604

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you want to report something to Apple you use the "Feedback Assistant App" and watch years go by with no fixes or improvements to basic OS fundamentals.

> Feedback Assistant They finally found a marketable name for /dev/null.

well said. well, sad. but true ...

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by [deleted] »

mdnahas wrote: post #769
steve_taylor wrote: post #239

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Focus stealing has been an issue in windowed multi-tasking environments from the beginning. It's certainly been an issue in all macOS/OS X versions I've used since I started in 2011.

Agreed. Since sharing input between multiple applications (and the OS services) is its primary role, you would think that UI designers would have “thou shalt not steal focus” as a commandment, but that is not the case. My latest version of the problem is with Ubuntu Gnome. Upgrade software and, later, you will be interrupted with a pop-up window to enter your system password. Not only is this an interruption, I’m alw…

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by ubermonkey »

signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

I'm as picky as the next guy, but I'm not seeing Tahoe being THAT BAD. I was holding off, but various events led to me buying a new laptop so I got it by default.

Resizing isn't great, but it's also deeply shitty in Win 11. I feel like window manager thought leadership has failed across the board, but the regression isn't that big of a deal in day to day usage, and is definitely not unique to Apple.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by thiht »

The little video seems really weird to me, the author is clearly trying to resize outside of the border?? I just tried it myself and the resize zone feels more than reasonable: https://imgur.com/iip8DIL there's like 5mm on each side of the actual border to grab and resize!
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