Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

Post by tptacek » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 4:42 AM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #768

tptacek wrote: post #690

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This doesn't even make sense. Suppose Israel does lie constantly. What does that have to do with whether Hezbollah does?

Parent meant this as a statement of fact (stating it's x that lies, and implying it's not y, or that x lies more than y). As such (true or not) it makes perfect sense, and requires only a very intuitive and casual understanding to get it. Your comment reads as if it was some failed attempt at some kind of axiomatic construction (x lies _ therefore _ y doesn't).

Post by dlubarov » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 8:28 AM UTC

cess11 wrote: post #749

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It's not clear that Israel just set off all Hezbollah issued beepers; we don't know what methodology they used. We can guess based on reported casualties, but we don't know which casualties were involved with Hezbollah's military operations. > What the israelis did would have been a worse crime if it actually was targeted. It was certainly targeted, it just also had collateral damage, i.e. harm to non-targets. What y…

Israel should obviously have ended the occupations, payed reparations and prepared for the return of refugees. The IDF doesn't give a shit about "collateral damage". They mainly attack civilian targets. That's the purpose of the organisation, to make life for indigenous populations in the vicinity of the state of Israel impossible. Destroy their agriculture and water sources, murder their children, displace them, des…

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 2:08 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #770

coldtea wrote: post #769

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> It's equally true in Israel, where Hezbollah fired tens of thousands of rockets indiscriminately, killing, among other things, a Druze children's soccer team in the Golan Heights. An innocent kid was killed in this conflict? Thank God the other side didn't do that 20,000x more - then it would have been a real tragedy! Especially if unlike some indiscriminate firing of crude rockets, they did it purposefully, with s…

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. I think you're trying to weigh Israel's actions against those of Hezbollah's? You're not going to get anywhere, rhetorically, with me doing that, because I'm no supporter of Israel's.

Post by UltraSane » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 2:41 PM UTC

newspaper1 wrote: post #755

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I apologized for correcting a comment from someone who I believe isn't in a place to discuss the issue, and who would predictably contest the claim --- since we'd already had the same disagreement elsewhere, bringing it up again, however valid my concern was, was bad for the thread. The apology was in no way whatsoever a reflection of my beliefs about what actually happened. "Goybucks" is absolutely not OK here.

Jews use "goy" as a slur against non-Jews. As a so called "goy", I don't find "goybucks" offensive and in fact appreciate the attempt to reclaim the word.

Post by UltraSane » Sat, Dec 13, 2025, 2:45 PM UTC

cess11 wrote: post #750

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Then they never left even after the Lebanon government told them to. They are Iranian puppets and deeply hated by non-shia Lebanese

The threat they were formed to handle never went away. It's rather racist to think that the lebanese shia and their political parties are "puppets".