Apple M5 chip • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by robenkleene » Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 11:41 PM UTC

gloosx wrote: post #565

toddmorey wrote: post #6

The modern Apple feels like their hardware teams way outperforming the software teams.

From my vast experience with MacOS, Apple is notoriously bad at the most basic software, like notes or calculator

What's a better rich-text notes app than Apple Notes? (E.g., excluding the plain-text options like Obsidian, which are really a different beast.)

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by NetMageSCW » Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 11:43 PM UTC

t1234s wrote: post #570

Any reason they don't have an apple TV pro with an M* chip that's targeted towards gaming?

Because the A* iPhone chip in the Apple TV should be more than enough for HD quality gaming?

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by NetMageSCW » Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 11:46 PM UTC

umvi wrote: post #645

I would buy a mac mini with an M* chip in the blink of an eye if merely upgrading the RAM didn't double the cost of the unit

You’re in luck then, it doesn’t double the cost.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by NetMageSCW » Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 11:48 PM UTC

mrkaluzny wrote: post #711

Emm… why it says that a charger is not included on the purchase. That’s just crazy.

Welcome to the EU.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by tsunamifury » Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 11:51 PM UTC

array_key_first wrote: post #692

tsunamifury wrote: post #487

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Transparency disabling ads anothe draw layer that is opaque on top making it even worse than when it’s on

If they developed it in the most naive and stupid way imaginable, sure. If we're assuming Apple isn't filled with 3rd year comp sci students, then no.

HAHA this is where HN has become delusional. It quite literally is the implementation, they've checked the render pipeline on reddit. Jesus the arrogance here is so shit.

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Post by dzhiurgis » Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 11:53 PM UTC

bombcar wrote: post #585

gigatexal wrote: post #569

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Amazing. My M3Max is going to look like a paper-weight very soon. And that's fine by me. When I get an M6 or M7Max to replace it it'll be amazing.

I’m trying to find any reason I can that my M1 Max needs replacement; it’s hard. How do you justify it?

Weird timing but my m1 started lag out recently. Must be just in my head.

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Post by matt-p » Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 11:59 PM UTC

brailsafe wrote: post #719

eftychis wrote: post #584

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I had the same question, but I can only speculate at the moment. The cynical part of me thinks in a similar line: create an artificial differentiation and push people to upgrade. If anyone has any real clues that they can share pseudonymously, that would be great. Not sure which department drove that change.

They definitely do that. You could get 64gb ram without going up to the top spec of the Max tier of CPU in the M1 and M2 generations, but with the M4 Pro you can only do 24 or 48gb, while on the lower spec M4 Max you can only do 36gb and nothing else, only the absolute best CPU can do 64, therefore if you were otherwise going to get the 48gb m4 pro, you'd have to spend another ~$1200 USD to get another 16gb of ram if…

you can get 64GB on the mini with M4-Pro so that lays credence to no technical reason, but at the same time if the business reason was strong, why allow it on the mini but not in a macbook? I think this is equally likely to be due to reducing SKUs or something. E.g they found that most people buying 64GB ram do also buy the upgraded processor.

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Post by momojo » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 12:06 AM UTC

jacobolus wrote: post #723

runjake wrote: post #663

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Let's see if I can turn this into an ASCII table and have it survive HN's reformatting. +------+------------------+--------------+----------+----------------+-------------------+-------------------+---------------------------+ | Chip | Process | CPU Cores | GPU | Neural Engine | Memory Bandwidth | Unified Memory | Geekbench6 (Single/Multi) | +------+------------------+--------------+----------+----------------+------…

Or to fit in a narrower window: Chip | Process | CPU | GPU | Neural | Memory | Unified | Geekbench6 | | Cores | | Engine | Bandwidth | Memory | Single / Multi -----|---------|-----------|------|---------|-------------|---------|---------------------- M1 | 5 nm G1 | 8: 4P+4E | 7–8 | 16-core | 68.25 GB/s | 16 GB | 2346 / 8346 M2 | 5 nm G2 | 8: 4P+4E | 8–10 | 16-core | 100 GB/s | 24 GB | 2586 / 9672 M3 | 3 nm G1 | 8: 4P…

doing the lords work

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Post by aardshark » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 12:09 AM UTC

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #319

markus_zhang wrote: post #161

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I pretty much see the Macbook as some fancy toys with mediocre software. Maybe the kernel is solid but other software are very meh, even comparing to Windows. But I'm definitely biased as a Windows/Linux user, and my hobby is system programming so naturally a Linux box is more suitable. Biggest grief with MacOS software: - Finder is very mediocre comparing to even File explorer in Windows - Scrollbar and other UI iss…

> - Finder is very mediocre comparing to even File explorer in Windows It really is awful. Why the hell is there no key to delete a file? Where's the "cut" option for moving a file? Why is there no option for showing ALL folders (ie, /bin, /etc) without having to memorize some esoteric key combination? For fuck's sake, even my home directory is hidden by default. > - Scrollbar and other UI issues Disappearing scrollb…

Explorer is not good, and finder isn't much better.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by waterTanuki » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 12:13 AM UTC

I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to be making some of the best hardware out there only to have it completely wasted on useless "liquid glass" UIs and locked down to a half-baked OS (looking at you iPadOS).