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2 Minnesota lawmakers shot in politically motivated killings, governor says (cbc.ca) 102 points by awnird 88 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 19 comments Interesting to see the 100x(!) attention that this gets on HN, likely representative of similar media reach on more mainstream channels, when it's not even lawmakers in this case.

Those are not the only recent political killings: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45203644

> not even lawmakers

But he was more famous than those lawmakers.

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Platforms like Reddit and BlueSky need to be held accountable for promoting violent rhetoric, as well as the users that openly call for violence. A child could write an LLM backed script that filters out calls for violence.

An adult could work around the script

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so this is the end of the debate bro culture he pioneered? i dont imagine any other right wing thought leaders are going to want to put themselves at risk of being shot over and over again, now that its happened.

I think we can expect to see debaters behind inches of bulletproof glass

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Am I wrong in thinking this guy isn't/wasn't a very influential person, outside of Twitter and the people that stay on there 24/7? If so, why even target the poor guy? What change was the person who shot him hoping to elicit? Either way, I hope he makes it, even though it looks like it was a fatal blow

I think you're out-of-touch. It felt like he was the single most popular non-politician non-podcaster political commentator on social media for Americans under 30, and I'm not even in the target demographic that he's popular with.

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In light of the top post by "dang", I'd like to apologize for my own comments. Forgive me brothers and sisters, I was obviously on edge. In particular I'd like to apologize to one individual whom I insinuated was posting rage-bait. To close, this is a tragic time in America. Each act of violence is one act too many.

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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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In light of the top post by "dang", I'd like to apologize for my own comments. Forgive me brothers and sisters, I was obviously on edge. In particular I'd like to apologize to one individual whom I insinuated was posting rage-bait. To close, this is a tragic time in America. Each act of violence is one act too many.

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Do you think it should have been said then or do you think it shouldn't be said now?

Do you think it matters that Charlie kirk did a lot of mean talking and bin ladin directed a lot of violence?

For my bit, I really appreciated dang's top post. I don't agree that there are no differences between a terrorist leader and a right wing troll, but I do think that anger makes us collectively less and we could all benefit from an extra moment before scribbling an idea onto the internet.

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The guy was the embodiment of the "prove me wrong" meme. His choice of getting in to the middle of people and answering anyone's questions in a situation where there's no re-takes, no edits, even if he might've felt overbearing, was quite a fire test of the commenter's arguments versus his counter-arguments. His assassination really is a direct attack on debate itself. There really isn't a world where the sick people…

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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Nick Fuentes built his entire empire on hating Charlie Kirk, and his fans (groypers) are insane. Laura Loomer just came out and attacked Kirk a couple days ago. It's entirely possible he was fragged from the right.

It's not impossible, but I find this to be very unlikely.

Nick Fuentes has repeatedly condemned political violence for years, he and his followers have also been trying to get Kirk to debate him, so killing is counter-productive from that perspective. Furthermore, the "attacks" by Laura Loomer that I've seen don't get anywhere near calling for violence.

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