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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by jajko »

selcuka wrote: post #702
leptons wrote: post #634

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Except iPhone doesn't have a larger market share, and they aren't being used by 80% of the world's population. Where are you pulling these numbers from? iPhone only has a larger market share in the US, and not by much. Worldwide they are very small compared to android.

> they aren't being used by 80% of the world's population. I said "iPhone is more appealing to 80%+ of world's population". I didn't say everyone who wants it can afford it. It's pure speculation, of course, but given its current market share (27% of all devices sold) and its price point, I don't think it's too far fetched to say that its market share would be much higher if price wasn't an issue for people. This is…

Overconfident in your numbers you are, just because they suit your narrative. Zero actual backing for those you provide. Not reflecting reality I can see they are.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by shrx »

xenadu02 wrote: post #383
hbn wrote: post #254

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Apple said the mini iPhones underperformed, but they were not some sort of commercial failure. They sold millions of units. Numbers most Android OEMs could only dream of for a single flagship model. Current day Apple is all about optimizing and determined that still wasn't enough, and I imagine the manufacturing for small, specialized display panels certainly took a chunk out of those margins, so Apple decided to pul…

The number of people who aren't vocal tech people who actually want a smaller phone is a very small part of the market. In HN-like circles they're a notable minority but among the general population they are a smaller percentage. Especially when you consider huge segments of the market where your phone is your only computing device: a smaller phone is a massive anti-feature in large parts of the world. Plus almost ev…

> Plus almost everyone who says they want a smaller phone will just buy a larger one anyway.

The last time I bought a phone I chose Samsung S22, which was way out of my initially intended budget, for the sole reason that there were not any smaller options available below its price range.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by starky »

zamadatix wrote: post #132
the__alchemist wrote: post #2

Looks like they're still only available in "Huge" and "comically oversized". I guess I can keep buying Pixel 4s until new ones (req for battery) are no longer available.

It's interesting how this type of feedback always comes up for phones yet smaller phones have an extremely hard time actually selling enough units to justify making more of them. It seems part of it may be folks remaining in this group seem much more willing to stick with old devices anyways, helping drive less priority for small sizes on top of already being a smaller market segment. Perhaps there are some other big…

I recently had to replace my Pixel 7 Pro and went with the Galaxy S25. My hands are much larger than average and it is amazing how unweildy I find the Pixel 7 Pro is in comparison to the S25 even though the size difference doesn't seem that big when compared side to side. Makes me wonder how people with normal sized hands deal with the massive phones.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by mrheosuper »

51Cards wrote: post #25
the__alchemist wrote: post #2

Looks like they're still only available in "Huge" and "comically oversized". I guess I can keep buying Pixel 4s until new ones (req for battery) are no longer available.

I still carry my Pixel 5 for this reason. 2 replacement batteries in now and I have a spare sitting on a shelf. That said the Pixel 9A is tempting as it's not much larger than my Pixel 5. I hate that the finger print readers have moved to the front though. The sensor on the back of my 5 is perfectly postioned and also acts like a little track-pad for opening the notification tray. It was a perfect design IMO.

i would still use my px5 if it were not for 2 stupid problem: The promixity sensor does not work, thus the phone still think it's in pocket and won't wake the screen. Another problem is my power button has been missing.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by t_mahmood »

_puk wrote: post #753
godelski wrote: post #710

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> I pay with debit/credit cards but I don't have any digital wallet. I don't take my phone with me most of the time (my phone is big and having it hanging in my pockets is not nice). I hate having things in my pockets, so that's actually why I like digital wallets. Honestly I'd rather forgo my phone but it is easier to give up my wallet, which is only carried for the ID. But I've also recently moved away from flagshi…

There's non flagship, and there's ex-flagship. I'd much rather have an ex-flagship phone that, at the time, had what was considered one of the best cameras (actually pretty much all I care about). That said, I'm looking forward to trying this out in about 5 years! Written from my "new to me" pixel 6.

I had to fix my broken OnePlus 7t last year, with Lineage OS I don't miss a thing, except my bank app. For which I use an old Moto.

I used to be a flagship phone buyer all the time. But I now feel spending too much on a new phone is kind of a waste, as phones are getting too locked down to the users, and too open to the advertisers. I just want a phone where I can flash lineage OS, and done with it.

It's almost like buying hardware that are Linux friendly, a feat that was difficult once, now things are better. Really looking out for a Linux based phone that works

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by vishnukvmd »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #751
thewebguyd wrote: post #731

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But not for photos, arguably one of the more important things to a lot of people to be E2EE, and not everyone wants to host their own Immich instance, or do things manually. iCloud offers E2EE photo back up and sync and native apps for it, it's a huge selling point that Google could just as easily offer but willingly choose not to.

> it's a huge selling point that Google could just as easily offer but willingly choose not to. Google Photos is meant for sharing, where E2EE makes little sense. You can search your photos from any device. If you really want to give up that convenience for E2EE, you might as well do it right and use Proton or Ente, which have E2EE for all photos, unlike iCloud, which isn't for shared albums or photos shared to anyon…

You can share and search[1] for your photos from any device on Ente as well, with E2EE.

[1]: https://ente.io/ml

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by starky »

fariszr wrote: post #540

Unfortunately these new phones don't fix the main issue with the Pixel: the hardware. The performance is just unacceptable, it's already 50%+ slower than a snapdragon 8 elite flagship released in the same year. This affects everything, pixels just don't last nor have great battery life for this reason.And the big issue is they aren't even much cheaper anymore. I like GrapheneOS, but my pixel just randomly stopped wor…

>The performance is just unacceptable, it's already 50%+ slower than a snapdragon 8 elite flagship released in the same year.

This is the one thing I don't understand. How many people actually need the top end SoCs that other flagships come with. Phones have been more than fast enough for a long time now. Other than playing some games with tough visuals mid range SoCs are still more than powerful enough.

Complaints about battery life and the modems are fair (though I never had complaints about my Pixel 7 Pro battery life until it failed).

I also found that the photos from my Pixel were by far the best I'd ever seen from a phone. Every phone I had prior was only used for quick snapshots, if I was expecting to want to take something decent I would make sure to pack my mirrorless, with the Pixel I could actually trust it to take an acceptable photo.

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #96
jjice wrote: post #10

> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. Running Gemini Nano on device is the most interesting thing here. Magic Cue sounds exactly like the Siri improvements that Apple failed to launch this past year (and have stayed mostly quiet about for this coming year, except saying "eventually"). I hope it works well, because on-device AI for simple…

I think on-device models will be the breaking point for AI. Nobody wants to pay for a trillion dollar cloud bill. We've made consumers think that the only way you're paying for software is if you have to buy hardware that comes with it. If you want AI to truly blow up, make it run on potatoes. It doesnt have to do EVERYTHING, just specific needs. That said, what is with Android phones and their back cameras? They loo…

Just rumours but Apple is supposedly embracing a similar design for iPhone 17. https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-17/

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by coolg54321 »

jjice wrote: post #10

> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. Running Gemini Nano on device is the most interesting thing here. Magic Cue sounds exactly like the Siri improvements that Apple failed to launch this past year (and have stayed mostly quiet about for this coming year, except saying "eventually"). I hope it works well, because on-device AI for simple…

I really wish Pixel phones went with a more capable Snapdragon Elite 2 or Dimensity 9500 along with UFS 4.1, instead of sticking to their cost-cutting Tensor strategy. From past Pixels, on-device features like Magic Editor have been painfully slow compared to the same tools running on other Android flagships.
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