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It is frequently suggested that once one of the AI companies reaches an AGI threshold, they will take off ahead of the rest. It's interesting to note that at least so far, the trend has been the opposite: as time goes on and the models get better, the performance of the different company's gets clustered closer together. Right now GPT-5, Claude Opus, Grok 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro all seem quite good across the board (ie the…

For those who happen to have a subscription to The Economist, there is a very interesting Money Talks podcast where they interview Anthropic's boss Dario Amodei[1].

There were two interesting takeaways about AGI:

1. Dario makes the remark that the term AGI/ASI is very misleading and dangerous. These terms are ill defined and it's more useful to understand that the capabilities are simply growing exponentially at the moment. If you extrapolate that, he thinks it may just "eat the majority of the economy". I don't know if this is self-serving hype, and it's not clear where we will end up with all this, but it will be disruptive, no matter what.

2. The Economist moderators however note towards the end that this industry may well tend toward commoditization. At the moment these companies produce models that people want but others can't make. But as the chip making starts to hits its limits and the information space becomes completely harvested, capability-growth might taper off, and others will catch up. The quasi-monopoly profit potentials melting away.

Putting that together, I think that although the cognitive capabilities will most likely continue to accelerate, albeit not necessarily along the lines of AGI, the economics of all this will probably not lead to a winner takes all.

[1] https://www.economist.com/podcasts/2025/07/31/artificial-int...

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post #770

So far GPT-5 has not been able to pass my personal "Turing test" which has been unsuccessful for the past several years starting through various versions of Dall-e up to the latest model. I want it to create an image of Santa Claus pulling the sleigh with a reindeer in the sleigh holding the reins, driving the sleigh. No matter how I modify the prompt it is still unable to create this image that my daughter requested…

Is this what you mean? https://chatgpt.com/share/6895632c-fb58-800e-b287-b7a98ad64d...

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I didn't know that OpenAI added what they call organization verification process for API calls for some models. While I haven't noticed this change at work using OpenAI models, when I wanted to try GPT-5 on my personal laptop, I came across this obnoxious verification issue. It seems that it's all because that users can get thinking traces from API calls, and OpenAI wants to prevent other companies from distilling th…

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#774
Lots of debate here about the best model. The best model is the one which creates the most value for you —- this typically is a function of your skill in using the model for tasks that matter to you. Always was. Always will be.

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post #771

It is frequently suggested that once one of the AI companies reaches an AGI threshold, they will take off ahead of the rest. It's interesting to note that at least so far, the trend has been the opposite: as time goes on and the models get better, the performance of the different company's gets clustered closer together. Right now GPT-5, Claude Opus, Grok 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro all seem quite good across the board (ie the…

For those who happen to have a subscription to The Economist, there is a very interesting Money Talks podcast where they interview Anthropic's boss Dario Amodei[1]. There were two interesting takeaways about AGI: 1. Dario makes the remark that the term AGI/ASI is very misleading and dangerous. These terms are ill defined and it's more useful to understand that the capabilities are simply growing exponentially at the…

It's insane to me that anyone doesn't think the end game of this is commoditization.

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post #770

So far GPT-5 has not been able to pass my personal "Turing test" which has been unsuccessful for the past several years starting through various versions of Dall-e up to the latest model. I want it to create an image of Santa Claus pulling the sleigh with a reindeer in the sleigh holding the reins, driving the sleigh. No matter how I modify the prompt it is still unable to create this image that my daughter requested…

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post #770

So far GPT-5 has not been able to pass my personal "Turing test" which has been unsuccessful for the past several years starting through various versions of Dall-e up to the latest model. I want it to create an image of Santa Claus pulling the sleigh with a reindeer in the sleigh holding the reins, driving the sleigh. No matter how I modify the prompt it is still unable to create this image that my daughter requested…

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Re: GPT-5

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It is frequently suggested that once one of the AI companies reaches an AGI threshold, they will take off ahead of the rest. It's interesting to note that at least so far, the trend has been the opposite: as time goes on and the models get better, the performance of the different company's gets clustered closer together. Right now GPT-5, Claude Opus, Grok 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro all seem quite good across the board (ie the…

How marginally better was Google than Yahoo when debuted? If one can develop AGI first within X timeline ahead of competitors, that alone could develop a moat for a mass market consumer product even if others get to parity .

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Watching the livestream now, the improvement over their current models on the benchmarks is very small. I know they seemed to be trying to temper our expectations leading up to this, but this is much less improvement than I was expecting

> I know they seemed to be trying to temper our expectations leading up to this Before the release of the model Sam Altman tweeted a picture of the Death Star appearing over the horizon of a planet.

He also said he had an existential crisis that he was completely useless now at work.

Re: GPT-5

#780

It is frequently suggested that once one of the AI companies reaches an AGI threshold, they will take off ahead of the rest. It's interesting to note that at least so far, the trend has been the opposite: as time goes on and the models get better, the performance of the different company's gets clustered closer together. Right now GPT-5, Claude Opus, Grok 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro all seem quite good across the board (ie the…

How marginally better was Google than Yahoo when debuted? If one can develop AGI first within X timeline ahead of competitors, that alone could develop a moat for a mass market consumer product even if others get to parity .

Google was not marginally better Yahoo, their implementation of Markov chains in the PageRank algorithm was significantly better than Yahoo or any other contemporary search engine.

It's not obvious if a similar breakthrough could occur in AI

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