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"Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies" – Executive Order

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If the Supreme Court and Congress has no enforcement power, though, what recourse is there?

Congress has all the enforcement power, they can impeach the president whenever they want. Will they? I don't know, he's already gone so far in constitutional overreach that he's making Nixon blush. Judiciary has more power than you'd think too. It's just that they try to act in good faith and generally do not want to throw people into civil contempt that often. The SCOTUS can even re-re-interpret the presidential im…

> Congress has all the enforcement power, they can impeach the president whenever they want.

Regarding the power of the judiciary in this, Trump's team is arguing right now before the Supreme Court that the judiciary has no power to constrain the President's power when he's acting solely within the Executive branch (which is basically all the time...) Oh, and as part of that filing he reminded the Supreme Court that they just granted him full immunity from prosecution.

For the cherry on the cake, the official Whitehouse X account tweeted out "GOD SAVE THE KING" with a picture of Trump with a crown on his head (I thought this was fake when I first saw it).

Sorry, the Republic is toast.

Re: "Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies" – Executive Order

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In general, people are going to interpret this EO with their own lens. Unsurprisingly, reasonable people may disagree on the merits of the EO as a whole. However this part of the EO is pretty concerning > 'The President and the Attorney General, subject to the President’s supervision and control, shall provide authoritative interpretations of law for the executive branch' and later > 'No employee of the executive bra…

>setting up the president as the sole power center is an inherently unstable system.

But that is what the Constitution specifies (Article II Section 1):

> The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

I find it funny people either don't know this or are intentionally ignoring it. The entire power is vested in one person, who can delegate the enforcement of it to lower officers.

> Nothing prevents the next president from having a radically different opinion. There is a very good reason why the founding fathers built in an elaborate system of checks and balances.

Right, thats why they included a legislative branch and a judicial branch. The problem is the legislative branch delegated much of what it does to the executive, and the judicial said it was okay.

Re: "Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies" – Executive Order

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sic semper tyrannis

Hopefully we never get there. But America should suffer no kings.

Like this guy, tweeted out by the official Whitehouse X account? https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1892295984928993698

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An independent regulatory agency are established by law and function outside direct executive supervision. That’s the whole purpose: they’re supposed to be non partisan.

But there’s a loop hole - this independence isn’t codified. Rather an executive order from 1993 (12866) required federal agencies to submit proposals to OMB but exempted regulatory agencies. Today Trump is closing that loop hole.

So if that’s not congress’s intent (which I’m sure is not) then they will need to pass a law soon making these agencies independence from the president explicit

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Even with a highly sympathetic Supreme Court it is hard to imagine this EO standing. It goes against the foundation of not only US law, but couple of hundred years of international democratic tradition in which allegiance is not to a person, but to the nation itself. US civil servants and military alike swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution not the president or their commander. Illegal orders are not o…

If the Supreme Court and Congress has no enforcement power, though, what recourse is there?

I think this is what the second amendment was about

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This is obviously alarming, and if used to disregard the Judiciary's interpretation of law, unconstitutional. But I'm puzzled by the exemption of the Federal Reserve and FOMC. He's previously beefed with them, and would presumably find the additional leverage useful. Why explicitly exclude them?

They're not fully exempted, the order does apply to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in connection with its conduct and authorities directly related to its supervision and regulation of financial institutions.

In other words, when it comes to banking regulation, the President has the final say.

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> Republicans won a lot of elections A lot of them thanks to the results of blatant gerrymandering.

My candidate winning reflects the legitimate will of the people, and your candidate winning is solely due to gerrymandering. Of course. Both parties[0][1] in fact do engage in gerrymandering. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27s_4th_congressional... [1]: https://thefulcrum.us/electoral-reforms/worst-gerrymandered-...

In your own link [1] all but 2 of the examples of worst gerrymanders are Republican...?

But uh yeah "both sides"... uh huh

Re: "Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies" – Executive Order

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This Executive Order says they are law, checkmate, sane people.

Judge can say no it isn’t and you’ll have to fight it out in court.

And that's why they've been threatening uncooperative judges with prison and unemployment.
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