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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by lynx97 »

ben_w wrote: post #755
lynx97 wrote: post #179

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No, it IS about illegal immigrants. Claiming everyone supporting center/right/conservative values is automatically anti-gay is just wrong and toxic.

You just shifted from "immigration" to "illegal immigration". Dual citizenship is as legal as you can get, the AfD opposed it until they realised it meant they could get away with later stripping undesirable people of German citizenship. Germany decided to accept a million *perfectly legal* asylum seekers in the Syrian crisis, and another million from Ukraine. The AfD opposes it, even as they accept the suffering of…

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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by aredox »

alt227 wrote: post #686
aredox wrote: post #675

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If I pretend to be fine with people criticizing me, that claims fails as soon as I block/ban/throttle one (1) person for doing that.

As long as criticism was 100% the reason for the ban and can be proved it wasnt related to anything else at all.

A nice dodge, given that Twitter is completely non-transparent as for the reasons of a ban - not to say anything about throttling/shadowbanning.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by account42 »

scarab92 wrote: post #727
Dylan16807 wrote: post #725

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I don't think you should block a major domain because of a spam spike. If you think the entire domain is compromised, then send in a human to look, otherwise focus on the accounts that are sending spam links.

Meanwhile thousands of users are receiving links to malware and phishing attacks while human raters are twiddling their thumbs. The parent is correct, these systems should be automated. Automated systems can respond faster and more accurately than humans. Humans should only be involved to improve the system and correct any mistakes it makes after the fact.

Social media platforms shouldn't play internet police in the first place. We need to preserve our ability to communicate via impartial carries. I don't want the mailman to decide what letters I can send. I do not want the telephone company to decide what calls I can make. I don't want online replacements of them to make any such decisions either.

The problem isn't links to scam sites posted on X/whatever, the problem is the scam. That is something for the actual police, government agencies and ultimately legislators to handle. Go after the actual scammers. Go after countries harboring them. Don't sacrifice our freedoms for an "easy" out instead of doing real law enforcement.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by mike_hearn »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #725
mike_hearn wrote: post #658

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Well, I worked on abuse for a few years and gave a tech talk on it at Twitter. You really do want these things to be fully automated for two reasons. The first is that spammers automate so if you don't then they're always much faster. By the time your humans are paying attention and have made a decision it's too late, all the spam (scams, frauds, malware sites...) was already delivered. In the next spam run everythin…

I don't think you should block a major domain because of a spam spike. If you think the entire domain is compromised, then send in a human to look, otherwise focus on the accounts that are sending spam links.

signal.me probably isn't a major domain. These things work on probability. I use Signal (most people don't) and had never heard of this domain until now. It's likely a utility domain that doesn't appear in X messages often, so a single spammer is capable of overwhelming its good traffic in a single campaign. Whereas e.g. google.com has a lot of presence over a long period of time in non-spam messages so it'd take a huge spam campaign to overpower it.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by account42 »

philipdavis wrote: post #720
handoflixue wrote: post #711

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> If yes, why? Some people are smart, insightful, and for some reason insist on only posting on X. I don't see the harm in continuing to follow them, even if I do wish they'd choose a different site to post on (I expect a lot of people also have less techie friends and family that only post on a single social media site - I've had accounts all over the place trying to keep track of some old friends)

I guess those smart, insightful people are staying on X because - their targeting audience are on X - they are rich and do not really care what the platform owner does - they will be very happy to join the owner when offered such opportunities For people who are the target audience of those people, I guess - they voted for this, and they are happily watching the federal gov falling apart - they convinced themselves t…

- They realize that the owners of other platforms that are actually used aren't any better, including the previous owners and leadership of Twitter.

- They reject outrage and cancel culture and refuse to engage in performative posturing that ultimatively achieves nothing.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by karparov »

drak0n1c wrote: post #712
karparov wrote: post #677

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I'm not sure everything in there is 50 years old. Not even that everything is actually in COBOL. Those gigantic beasts tend to eventually be quarantined into some VM, never touched again, and then somebody puts some modern-ish wrappers around. For example some HTTP JSON API endpoints to query things. And what do they do when a date is missing? Not returning one would surely make sense. But I'd also expect layers and…

There is no cluster at 150 in the underlying data though, there's even distribution among unrealistically high age ranges. This is yet another case of people taking partisan telephone game conjecture literally.

> There is no cluster at 150 in the underlying data though, there's even distribution among unrealistically high age ranges.

Is that so? How do you know? Afaik that data is confidential and access is highly restricted. Or are you saying that that's what Elon said and we should take his word for it?

> This is yet another case of people taking partisan telephone game conjecture literally.

I don't follow. Could you please explain?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by account42 »

newdee wrote: post #688
stainablesteel wrote: post #515

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i voted for that, i voted for the destruction of the federal government because it's bankrupting us by stealing our money

I’m reminded of this line from Stewart Lee, when talking about the disillusioned British working class voting for radical political parties/causes: “A protest vote for UKIP is like shitting your hotel bed as a protest against bad service, then realising you now have to sleep in a shitted bed.”

Still a better solution than to keep voting for parties that actively work against their constituents' interests. Unless those parties themselves change, the only alternative is violent revolution and and that is going to be a lot messier than a shitted bed.

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Post by account42 »

pjc50 wrote: post #623
stainablesteel wrote: post #515

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i voted for that, i voted for the destruction of the federal government because it's bankrupting us by stealing our money

This aspect of America has always struck me as the most bizarre: the most vicious enemies of the American state are Americans.

This is hardly bizzare but how governments everywhere work. People in power are not benevolent out of the goodness of their hearts but because the people from whom they derive their power - the population in a democratic state - continuously fight against overreach of their powers.

And it's not like this is a one-sided conflicts. Governments are actively working to suppress their citizens from standing up to them - by restricting free speech that would allow those citizens to organize, by trying to shape the thoughts of their citizens through various forms of propaganda and ultimately by doing everything they can to retain the state's monopoly on violence.

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Post by torlok »

genewitch wrote: post #748
torlok wrote: post #718

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AfD is a Nazi party, and nobody's silencing them, despite overwhelming opposition in all EU countries. If you listen to EU parliament speeches, there's all kinds of radical political views being shared during debates. Vance came to Europe to peddle US culture wars and got laughed out.

AfD the extreme right wing nazi party helmed by a lesbian that is married to a brown woman? Are you sure you're using all of these words correctly?

Sure, and Elon Musk couldn't have done a Nazi salute twice, because he photographed himself looking bummed out at Auschwitz. What does it take for you to call spade a spade?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by torlok »

scarab92 wrote: post #759
torlok wrote: post #756

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Your source is Elon Musk. AfD is not just "a mainstream right-wing party".

Sure it is. Their policies are comparable to the those of the current trump administration.

That says a lot about the current Trump administration, not the other way around.
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