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Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Post by DonHopkins »

gotoeleven wrote: post #672
fma wrote: post #526

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conservatives keep moving the goal post. I see a less criticism of conservatives due to the fear of being labeled as bias. i.e. the coverage of Biden's cognitive decline vs Trump's cognitive decline.

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JD Vance wrote "I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler."

You are aware that JD Vance is America's Hitler's running mate, right?

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Post by tstrimple »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #327
ImJamal wrote: post #252

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The person you are replying to understands this and was being sarcastic. Everybody already knew who they wanted to endorse well before this came out.

Sarcastically asked or not, the answer is sadly yes. That's why every dang US election comes down to some undecided voters in 10 states. But that's a societal issue that's only given lip service at most.

It's just remnants of DEI for former slave holding states. Supposedly they are ideologically opposed to it, but as usual it turns out that only applies when convenient. Practically every conservative achieving office does so thanks to DEI giving huge advantages to rural areas over places where people actually live and business actually happens.

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Post by oezi »

noncoml wrote: post #384
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #361

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Not saying the BBC is Fox News or CNN but I wouldn’t really call it impartial.

"somewhat impartial" I can not really think of any truly impartial news source. Can you? At least no in the countries I have lived in

I believe many of each countries top news papers aren't 'spinning' news. Murdock/Berlusconi-style news agencies do.

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Post by refurb »

deepsquirrelnet wrote: post #395
karmasimida wrote: post #319

It is ironic because Washington Post is the most left leaning of all major news paper. Their endorsement is really a no-op, because there is really only one candidate they could ever consider.

And yet here we are without an endorsement. Significant by your own admission.

That doesn't logically follow at all.

We're "here without an endorsement" because the media machine decides to talk about it, not because it's significant.

The most influential power the media has is what they decide to write about and what they don't. They don't report the news, they make the news.

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Post by Paradigma11 »

lmz wrote: post #717
strunz wrote: post #478

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This has nothing to do with them being unable to support Republicans, it's them choosing not to support a Democratic nominee (which they've done for the past 50 years) because they don't want to anger the possible Republican nominee because the owner is afraid of retribution affecting his other businesses.

As the cancel brigade often says: freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.

True, but said consequences are the possibility of a revenge streak of a petty US president called Trump. That is the real problem and story. And nobody really seems to dispute that possibility.

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Post by dingaling »

bjourne wrote: post #669
lapcat wrote: post #296

Newspapers publish opinions for the same reason that they publish comic strips: people want to read them. Readers seek them out. Newspapers are a business and have to give their customers what they want. The problematic aspect here is that the current business owner, Jeff Bezos, has a conflict of interest. Bezos is making a bad business decision for The Washington Post, sacrificing it and losing readers for the sake…

> Newspapers publish opinions for the same reason that they publish comic strips: people want to read them. Readers seek them out. Newspapers are a business and have to give their customers what they want. The customer is predominantly the advertiser. Newspapers publish opinions to have something to fill the empty space surrounding the advertisements.

Indeed, I'd assumed paper use opinion columns because they're cheaper than news.

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Post by oezi »

rayiner wrote: post #661
dfxm12 wrote: post #422

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I just hope this will finally put to bed any ridiculous mentions of "liberal media bias", or that the tech sector has some liberal bias.

The media isn't even just liberal. It's off the charts liberal even among liberals. Among journalists, Democrats outnumber Republicans 10 to 1: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/dec/30/only-34-us-... . This is reflected in news coverage. Consider how they cover things like Voter ID or proving citizenship to vote, which 80% of people support: https://news.gallup.com/poll/652523/americans-endorse-early-... Or c…

> Among journalists, Democrats outnumber Republicans 10 to 1

This seems to be a general observation when looking at college educated people that they lean more towards the Democratic party.

Hard to combat such a bias.

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Post by oezi »

paul7986 wrote: post #714
rayiner wrote: post #661

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The media isn't even just liberal. It's off the charts liberal even among liberals. Among journalists, Democrats outnumber Republicans 10 to 1: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/dec/30/only-34-us-... . This is reflected in news coverage. Consider how they cover things like Voter ID or proving citizenship to vote, which 80% of people support: https://news.gallup.com/poll/652523/americans-endorse-early-... Or c…

Funny in terms of liberal technology is testing Chat GPT of any political biased. Based off asking it the following 3 questions it might just be... "Hey GPT, whose your spirit animal between Barrack Obama and Donald Trump?" It provided a neutral answer providing the pros of both dudes. "Hey GPT, whose your spirit animal between Obama and Hitler?" It clearly chose Obama saying how rightfully so awful Hitler was. "Hey…

From Trump's rhetoric and flaming hatred for the 'enemies within' it seems not far fetched to imagine him setting up internment camps. It is a slippery slope as Germans can attest.

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Post by Teever »

iambateman wrote: post #601

Let’s zoom out from the present election and remember how Bezos took over… The first thing he said was “The paper’s duty will remain to its readers and not to the private interests of its owners.” We, the readers, should require an apology from Bezos for breaking his promise to keep this separate from his other concerns. Until that happens, one must assume that WaPo is permanently compromised in the favor of Bezos’s…

Does an apology matter? Do we really need one?

How will an apology from Bezos improvement life?

What would improve mymlife are clear concrete actions not measly words.

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Post by latexr »

m101 wrote: post #742

So why is it that this is about money and Amazon contracts? Why isn't it about Kamala just being so bad, in Bezos's eyes, that she doesn't deserve an endorsement. I think that's way more likely. I am not surprised however that the liberal media will look for any problem over admitting it's their own candidate that's the problem. Bezos owns 9% of Amazon. His personal share of any 10bn contract might be a few hundred m…

> Why isn't it about Kamala just being so bad, in Bezos's eyes, that she doesn't deserve an endorsement.

Bad for whom? Bezos is a multibillionaire, his problems are not our problems. It’s detached from reality to think a guy that made his fortune exploiting workers and other businesses in any way understands or cares for society’s struggles.

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