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Post by al_borland »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #692
al_borland wrote: post #435

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When venturing into the file transfer territory, a lot of employers are going to veto the device over security concerns. Just like they wouldn’t want employees plugging in random USB drives found on the street.

Or USB drives period. My former employer didn't allow cell phones or really any device that could connect things from the outside. We had the Internet, but it all had to go through their own managed pipes. Totally fine to bring in a monitor though. Not sure if that would still be true today, given the connectivity of things. I bet you could still bring in a monitor, but you'd risk needing to prove that there was no w…

I think there would be better luck with a dedicated monitor port (HDMI, DisplayPort, DVI, VGA), rather than a USB-C monitor, depending on how hard things are locked down.

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Post by amykhar »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Would love one - but I was recently burned by an expensive Android e-ink tablet with janky software and meh hardware. I need to be able to touch and play with one before I'd even consider buying it. I hope you make it into retail stores.

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Post by micah_chatt »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

First, this looks amazing, congrats! The primary reason I've held off on buying an eink tablet (remarkable/kindle scribe) is because much of the non-leisure reading I do for work requires enterprise-friendly features like MDM and encryption, and even with that plugging into a laptop to sync every document is a major UX hurdle.

Are you thinking about this primarily as a consumer device with, or do you want to go after those business applications sooner than later?

Disclosure: I work at AWS, own a Kindle Oasis, but have nothing to do with Kindle or devices.

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Post by tw04 »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Question: what sets this apart from say, boox? And in comparison, it seems a battery life of days feels a bit low - is that just a conservative estimate? Is that days with all-day use?

Note: I have literally nothing to do with boox other than being a relatively happy customer, even if I do wonder about how much spyware is in their firmware. On that note - is there any guarantees around software updates? The good and the bad of android is the constant updates. Looks like this is on 13 which is soon to be two releases back - are there plans to support future major revisions or is 13 all this is getting?

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Post by PontifexMinimus »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

How hard would it be to have a colour screen?

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Post by jimmysong »

unshavedyak wrote: post #721
jimmysong wrote: post #159

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As one of the beta testers, let me just say that I really like this device. It's very different than a kindle, kobo or reMarkable in that the refresh rate really makes a big difference. When I show this device to people, I show them how quickly zooming in on a PDF is. It's way faster and more responsive than any e-ink screen and it's way less addicting than the typical laptop, phone or tablet. I'm attempting to make…

What's the experience like with using it as a Terminal coding app? I'm super interested in using this to SSH into a home machine and programming from this. How viable is that? Though even if the device works excellently for that, i'm not sure it would _feel_ good due to it not being a laptop. My wife's ipad pro for example is not nearly as comfy as my mac pro, due to the properly balanced weight of it all. Still, sup…

I've got JuiceSSH set up and use the device as a thin client. Coding is a little different since you don't get the terminal colors that you normally use for syntax highlighting. Still, it's functional, and I can do it, mostly using a bluetooth keyboard to do so.

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Post by jimmysong »

vaylian wrote: post #698
jimmysong wrote: post #159

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As one of the beta testers, let me just say that I really like this device. It's very different than a kindle, kobo or reMarkable in that the refresh rate really makes a big difference. When I show this device to people, I show them how quickly zooming in on a PDF is. It's way faster and more responsive than any e-ink screen and it's way less addicting than the typical laptop, phone or tablet. I'm attempting to make…

What is your experience with writing code on the device? Does the grayscale impact syntax highlighting?

Yea, grayscale definitely impacts the syntax highlighting, as many of the colors end up pretty dark.

It works, though, and I have coded a bit on it. My only criticism would be that the copy-pasting is a little clunky, at least with JuiceSSH. Maybe other apps would be better at it.

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Post by flylikeabanana »

bloopernova wrote: post #758
noduerme wrote: post #428

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I second this. I really enjoy reading and writing on an Onyx e-ink tab, and I like the full Android functionality, but I can never use it for work or even for personal email logins, because I don't trust their custom Android build. I would be somewhat more inclined to trust Daylight than Onyx, but any custom OS is too potentially vulnerable to backdoors for my use cases. Something like this that you could load your o…

Is there such a thing as a tablet that accepts video input ? In other words, use it as a tablet, then connect a mini hdmi or whatever and it turns into a monitor. Disconnect, and it's a tablet again.

The recently released Minisforum V3 AMD tablet has this:

https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-v3

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Post by ShayNehmad »

Naracion wrote: post #633
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I'm really thinking about buying one, but I NEED someone (even paid sponsors) on YT to review it and post a real-life video demo of them using it for a real thing in their office to believe the claims. I can really see how this will make meetings, 1:1s, reviews, blogging, and designs at work way WAY more deep and engaging than with my MacBook. And perhaps it'll help me get into reading more, as well! I think a nice d…

Unsure how you are intending to use it for 1:1s and meetings--I don't believe this has a camera, so it can't be your primary device you are taking the call on. Of course, as a note-taking device during a meeting, this would shine! :)

My thought process is: 1. During a physical meeting (all my team is co-located so it's easier) - note taking, brainstorming, etc. If I need to upload something from the meeting to our shared Canvas (on Slack) or to my notes (on Logseq) or just file them away (on Confluence, Logseq, Hibob, Slack, email) - seems a lot easier to stay connected and focused on the precious 1:1 time and juggle the data later. 2. During any other meeting; connect from my laptop via Zoom and write down notes on the paper. This will almost force me to not do what I usually do, which is lose focus on the meeting, stop thinking, and idly do something else (like zeroing my inbox, reading Slack, or programming). When I was in the Army and carried a physical paper notebook every meeting was actually useful for me.
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