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Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Post by 4ndrewl »

surfingdino wrote: post #767
4ndrewl wrote: post #764

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Important to note the "The NHS" is not a single entity and the GP practice is likely a private entity owned in partnership by the doctors. There are a number of reasons why individual practices can refuse to register. Take your point about LLMs though.

I went to see my GP and the lady at the reception told me they no longer book visits at the reception and I had to use the app. Here's the privacy policy https://support.patientaccess.com/privacy-policy They reserve the right to pass your data to third party contractors and to use it for marketing purposes. There is the obligatory clause on regarding the right to be forgotten, but the AI companies claim it is impossi…

I didn't read that as reserving the right - looks like a standard dpia that is opt-in and limited.

However, GP practices are essentially privatised - so you do have the right to register at another practice.

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Post by Findecanor »

garbthetill wrote: post #669
ocodo wrote: post #561

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One is in jail, when it should be two are in jail

I dont like sam, but he moves way smarter than ppl like sbf or Elizabeth holmes. He actual has a product close to the reported specs, albeit still far away from the ultimate goal of AGI i dont see why he should be in jail

If his sister's words about sexually abusing her are true, he should be in jail.

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Post by mlindner »

ocodo wrote: post #560
windexh8er wrote: post #497

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The thing about the situation is that Altman is willing to lie and steal a celebrity's voice for use in ChatGPT. What he did, the timeline, everything - is sleazy if, in fact, that's the story. The really concerning part here is that Altman is, and wants to be, a large part of AI regulation [0]. Quite the public contradiction. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-openai-artificial...

Altman has proven time and again that he is little more than a huckster wrt technology, and in business he is a stone cold shark. Conman plain and simple.

I'm glad more people are thinking this. It's amazing that he got his way back into OpenAI somehow. I said as much that he shouldn't go back to OpenAI and got downvotes universally both here and on reddit.

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Post by Findecanor »

parineum wrote: post #498
dv_dt wrote: post #445

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As I understand it (though I may be wrong) in music sampling cases, it doesn’t matter if the “sample” is using an actual clip from a recording or if were recreated from scratch using a new media (e.g. direct midi sequence), if a song sampling another song is recognizable it is still infringing.

Sampling is not the same as duplication. Sampling is allowed as it's a derivitive work as long as it's substantially different from the original. It's a "I know it when I see it" situation so it's not clear cut.

Oh, the day when an artist could sample other artists without attribution and royalties is long gone. The music labels are very hard on this these days.

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Post by throwaway635383 »

disqard wrote: post #478
ProjectArcturis wrote: post #449

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I'm beginning to think this Sam Altman guy isn't so trustworthy.

You beat me to it. Bon mots apart, he really appears to have an innate capacity for betrayal.

Was there something in the water? Lots of rumbles around the early OpenAI members and questionable behavior.

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Post by unraveller »

dilyevsky wrote: post #729
unraveller wrote: post #725

Damning would be a side by side comparison of voices to assess the claim. We have the technology. ChatGPT using Sky voice (not 4o - original release): https://youtu.be/JmxjluHaePw?t=129 Samantha from "Her" (voiced by ScarJo): https://youtu.be/GV01B5kVsC0?t=134 Rashida Jones Talking about herself https://youtu.be/iP-sK9uAKkM I challenge anyone to leave prejudice at the door by describing each voice in totality first a…

First and second sample have this super noticeable voice fry that Rashida doesn’t have (as much of)

They would all sound alike when itching for agreement, I bet. The narrow likeness in accent is there at first but that isn't true likeness if significant other details emerge on further listening and that don't overlap.

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Post by lrvick »

verisimi wrote: post #757
silver_silver wrote: post #636

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It shouldn’t be forgotten that his sister has publicly accused him and his brother of sexually abusing her as a child.

I didn't know about that, strange: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...

"Some commenters on Hacker News claim that a post regarding Annie's claims that Sam sexually assaulted her at age 4 has been being repeatedly removed."

Whelp. Let us see if this one sticks.

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Post by yread »

emmp wrote: post #74
infotainment wrote: post #38

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It’s definitely sketchy (classic OpenAI) But my question is: is what they did actually illegal? Can someone copyright their own voice?

There are two similar famous cases I know offhand. Probably there are more. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co . Bette Middler successfully sued Ford for impersonating her likeness in a commercial. Then also: https://casetext.com/case/waits-v-frito-lay-inc Tom Waits successfully sued Frito Lay for using an imitator without approval in a radio commercial. The key seems to be that if someone is fam…

The Tom Waits case had a payout of 2.6 million for services with fair market cost of 100k. What would it cost openai to train chatgpt using her voice? Is she also going to get a payout 26 times that? That GPU budget is starting to look inexpensive...

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Post by ascorbic »

smt88 wrote: post #730
aseipp wrote: post #437

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It is not an impossible situation, courts have settled it, and what you describe is not how the law works (despite how many computer engineers think to the contrary.)

Courts have settled almost nothing related to AI. We don't even know if training AI using copyrighted works is a violating of copyright law. Please point to a case where someone was successfully sued for sounding too much like a celebrity (while not using the celebrity's name or claiming to be them).

Midler vs Ford: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.

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Post by wraptile »

krainboltgreene wrote: post #765
wraptile wrote: post #749

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I think majority agrees that we're ok with a few millionaire priviledge actors losing small amount of their value in favor of personal AI assistants for general populace. How is that even a topic worth discussing is trully perplexing.

No man, a majority do not believe that and it's really weird that you think they do.

Why? The data clearly points that nobody will go out of their way to protect IP laws. In majority of the world nobody could care less about some hollywood actor with tough to spell name getting their voice cloned.

It's really weird that someone would think that IP law is more important than access to information. Must be some dystopian bubble.

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