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Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Does anyone else feel a sense of doom from these advancements? I'm definitely not a Luddite, I've been working professionally as a programmer for quite some time now, but I just can't shake this feeling. And this is not in the "I might lose my job to this" kind of feeling, that's obviously there, but it's something deeper, more sinister. I don't think I can explain it properly. Anyway, videos look incredible. I genui…

I feel the opposite. I've been overwhelmed with a sense of my mortality, that I need to care for my body better, in order to live as long as possible into this age. I feel like I won the lottery of birth date to be able to see this. I get your perspective, and I have no doubt the wealth gap will widen painfully, but I'm also optimistic about humanity's ability to work it out.

Same. It’s absolutely amazing to be alive right now. AGI is our only shot at fixing the planet and fixing/extending our lives.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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This is insane. But I'm impressed most of all by the quality of motion . I've quite simply never seen convincing computer-generated motion before . Just look at the way the wooly mammoths connect with the ground, and their lumbering mass feels real. Motion-capture works fine because that's real motion, but every time people try to animate humans and animals, even in big-budget CGI movies, it's always ultimately obvio…

I disagree, just look at the legs of the woman in the first video. First she seems to be limping, than the legs rotate. The mammoth are totally uncanny for me as its both running and walking at the same time. Don't get me wrong, it is impressive. But I think many people will be very uncomfortable with such motion very quickly. Same story as the fingers before.

>>>just look at the legs of the woman

Denise Richards hard sharp knees in '97

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these infant tech are already insanely good... just wait and rahter try to focus on the "what should I be betting on in 5 years from now?

I suggest 'invisibility cloaks' (ghosts in machines?)

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Does anyone else feel a sense of doom from these advancements? I'm definitely not a Luddite, I've been working professionally as a programmer for quite some time now, but I just can't shake this feeling. And this is not in the "I might lose my job to this" kind of feeling, that's obviously there, but it's something deeper, more sinister. I don't think I can explain it properly. Anyway, videos look incredible. I genui…

Feeling anything else other than concern is unpopular only on this website where most believe the entire world is cute like the nerds hanging out at the office's game room.

Nothing good is coming out of this. I don't give a shit if you believe this is Luddism.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Does anyone else feel a sense of doom from these advancements? I'm definitely not a Luddite, I've been working professionally as a programmer for quite some time now, but I just can't shake this feeling. And this is not in the "I might lose my job to this" kind of feeling, that's obviously there, but it's something deeper, more sinister. I don't think I can explain it properly. Anyway, videos look incredible. I genui…

I have felt the same since Stable Diffusion came out.

The thing is, things have value in society partly because human efforts were involved in its making. It's not just about the end result; people still go to concert on top of listening to studio recordings for example, and people still watch humans play chess even though it's clear that good enough algorithms can beat the best humans easily. Technology like these which takes away too much immediate effort (hours needed to create the product) and long term effort (decades of training) are inherently absent of underlying value that I spoke of. Of course, if a person is only interested in consumption, it matters not how the "thing" is created.

Much of the sense of doom I have comes from the inherent erosion of this human effort element in the creative process. Whether we like it or not, the availability of mass produced content naturally threatens crafts themselves. After all, nobody wants to spend a few decades on their skills only to have their creation compared to an AI generated image produced in a few seconds.

I understand there are a lot of hypes around these technology to "humanity" but I have yet to see it. It just feels like more power consolidation to billionaires (especially when done as ClosedAI). There are artists who have tried to incorporate these but they have always felt the need to willingly not label their work as AI-generated or AI-assisted to sell (but still leaves in enough details for keen observers to tell it's AI touched).

As a whole, it just feels wrong. The most optimistic (and reasonable) take I have seen is "Just wait and see". It might feel like a non-argument, but it's the only realistic take between the hyped up techbros and the doomer cult (admittedly, I might belong to the latter group).

I think one of the most worrying thing for me is that regardless of how this plays out, this technology has only added more complexity to our society. That people are divided into camps about how they feel about the technology is simply a symptom about how much uncertainty there is in the future. This last bit will be a personal quarrel, but I personally lose any last desire to have children seeing the AI advancement. It's not right creating sentient life in an age where every year people have to play lottery to see whether technological advancement has deemed their life long effort unworthy.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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post #722

AI will eventually be capable of performing most of the tasks humans can do. My neighbor's child is only 6 years old now. What advice do you think I should give to his parents to develop their child in a way that avoids him growing up to find that AI can do everything better than he can?

If you want an honest answer you should tell the parents to vote for politicians prepared to launch missile strikes on data centers to secure their child's future. People who are worried purely about employment here are completely missing the larger risks. Realistically his child is going to be unemployable and will therefore either starve or be dependant on some kind of government UBI policy. However UBI is complete…

Dude, too pessimistic, next gen won’t be totally unemployable. Lots of professions up for grabs: roofer (they ain’t sending expensive robots there), anything to do with massage, sex work, anything to do with sports and performance so boxing, theater, Opera singing, live performance, dancing, military (will always need cheap flesh boots on ground), also care in elder facility for aging population, therapist (people still prefer interacting with a human), entertainer, maid cafe employee…

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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This is insane. But I'm impressed most of all by the quality of motion . I've quite simply never seen convincing computer-generated motion before . Just look at the way the wooly mammoths connect with the ground, and their lumbering mass feels real. Motion-capture works fine because that's real motion, but every time people try to animate humans and animals, even in big-budget CGI movies, it's always ultimately obvio…

Huh, strong disagree. I've seen realistic CGI motion many times and I don't consider this to feel realistic at all.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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I question how much anyone has really used these models if they actually think these systems can replace people. I’ve consistently failed to get professional results out of these things and the degree of work required to get professional results makes me think a new class of job will be created to get professional results out of these systems. That being said, there is value in these systems for casual use. For examp…

The more I use them, the more I get a sense of something fundamental that's missing, and the less I worry about losing my job. It's hard to describe, I need to think harder about what that feeling is.

Just imagine how annoying the past year was for those of us who had figured this out quicker.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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I'm just blown away. This can't be real. But lets be face the truth. Its even more impressive than ChatGPT. I think its the most impressive AI tech i've seen till now. I'm speechless.

Now the big question is. As OpenAI keeps pushing boundaries, it's fascinating to see the emergence of tools like Sora AI, capable of creating incredibly lifelike videos. But with this innovation comes a set of concerns we can't ignore.

So i'm worried about getting these tools misused. I'm thinking about what impact could they have on the trustworthiness of visual media, especially in an era plagued by fake news and misinformation? And what about the ethical considerations surrounding the creation and dissemination of content that looks real but isn't?

And, what we should do to tackle these potential issues? Should there be rules or guidelines to govern the use of such tools, and if so, how can we make sure they're effective?

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