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OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by Keyframe »

ergocoder wrote: post #702
no_wizard wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for the better why? Obviously Sam wasn’t the best fit for OpenAI and investors aren’t even saying what the problem is. Clearly the board feels he was the wrong person for the job. I think it’s ridiculous that everything thinks that Sam being outed means OpenAI is in trouble. Let this play out and see how it evolves

They accused Sam of lying in a public statement when they don't have an evidence to back it up. Those 4 people are not fit to run any company. Not a single person asked: well hey what if somebody asks for an evidence of lying? Do we have one?

We don't know any of that. Only things we know are statement from the board and statement from Altman that he was caught by surprise and statement from Microsoft they're supporting new CEO and few of the people that left. That's all we know for sure. Everything else are rumors and PR spins for now. If they have some evidence of what they said in statement about lying we just don't know.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by mdekkers »

MVissers wrote: post #711
silenced_trope wrote: post #612

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The major investors whose money is on the line and who are funding the venture, Microsoft, Sequoia, and Khosla, were not given advanced warning or any input in to how this would impact their investment. I would definitely say the board screwed up. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2023/11/17/openai-in...

The board of the non-profit (one that fired Sam) has no fiduciary duty to those investors, I believe. Microsoft invested in the for-profit Openai, which is owned by the non-profit. The other ones I don't know. The board has no responsibility to Microsoft whatsoever regarding this. Sam Altman structured it this way himself. Not to say that the board didn't screw up.

You can do everything by the rules, and still do the wrong thing

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by siruncledrew »

ksec wrote: post #728
crop_rotation wrote: post #60

The board seems truly incompetent here and looking at the member list it doesn't seem very surprising. A competent board should have asked for legal and professional advice before taking a drastic step like this. Instead the board thought it was a boxing match and tried to deliver a knockout punch before the market closes with blunt language. This might be the most incompetent board for an organisation of this size.

>OpenAI is governed by the board of the OpenAI Nonprofit, comprised of OpenAI Global, LLC employees Greg Brockman (Chairman & President), Ilya Sutskever (Chief Scientist), and Sam Altman (CEO), and non-employees Adam D’Angelo, Tasha McCauley, Helen Toner. >non-employees Adam D’Angelo, Tasha McCauley, Helen Toner. From Forbes [1] Adam D’Angelo, the CEO of answers site Quora, joined OpenAI’s board in April 2018. At the…

That board is going to face a wrath of shit from Microsoft, Khosla, and other investors.

This isn't a university department. You fuck around with $100B+ dollars of other people's money, you're gonna be in for it.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by VirusNewbie »

xivzgrev wrote: post #727
meetpateltech wrote: post #568

Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce where the board would resign and he and Brockman would return. The deadline has passed and mass resignations expected if a deal isn’t reached ASAP https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1726055095341875545

I am just baffled for so many reasons. Why is the board reversing course? They said they lost confidence in Altman - that’s true whether lots of people quit or not. So it was bullshit Why did the board not foresee people quitting en masse? I’m sure some of it is loyalty to Sam and Greg but it’s also revolting at how they were suddenly fired Why did the interim CEO not warn Ilya about the above? Sure it’s a promotion…

The board was likely stacked with people who were easily influenced by the big personalities and to check some marks (safety person, academic, demographic etc).

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Post by wincy »

adrr wrote: post #686
yosito wrote: post #570

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they asked ChatGPT for legal advice.

Maybe they and it didn't help them. Guardrails for chatgpt will prevent it from predicting outcomes, or providing any personalized advice. I asked it and just said to consult with counsel and have a succession plan. >Predicting specific outcomes in a situation like the potential firing of a high-profile executive such as Sam Altman from OpenAI is quite complex and involves numerous variables. As an AI, I can't predic…

Surely there’s a wholly uncensored chatGPT 5 at OpenAI running on some engineering sample H200 cluster with a Terabyte of video RAM or something.

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Post by bmitc »

sigmar wrote: post #610
shmatt wrote: post #598

This makes no sense. People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup. The board was Altmans boss - this is pretty much their only job. Altman knew this and most likely ignored any questions or concerns of theirs thinking he is the unfireable superstar Imagine if your boss fired you - and your response was - I’ll come back if you quit! Yeah, no. People might confuse status…

>People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup. The board removed the board's chairman and fired the CEO. That's why it was called a coup. >The shareholders can fire the board, but that’s not what he’s asking for. And so far we haven’t heard anything about them getting fired nonprofits don't have shareholders (or shares).

It would be a coup if the board placed themselves in power, which they didn't. They just did their job description.
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