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Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by taeric »

gnicholas wrote: post #752
tobyjsullivan wrote: post #703

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To be fair, this seems like a very convenient redefining of "household". If a household can, quite literally, span two houses (and states!), then what does household actually mean? Edit: double checked and Netflix today is clear that plans are for a single "household". No idea if that language has changed over time but I vaguely recall them always referring to multiple "devices", not people.

According to a dictionary, "household" means: > those who dwell under the same roof and compose a family; also: a social unit composed of those living together in the same dwelling [1] It seems more focused on the family unit rather than where they're located. If a household goes on vacation, are they not still a household when they are at their hotel? Why is it different if they're at a condo, which they own? Disclo…

I'm curious how you read that and don't see the words "roof" and "same dwelling"? Because... that seems far more focused on where they are located than not? Only thing it is excluding is multiple family units all living in a shared building are not one household.

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Post by Firmwarrior »

mathgeek wrote: post #699
oefnak wrote: post #674

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> money for two houses > no money for separate accounts for family members

Your comment adds nothing useful to the discussion, as GP never said it was a matter of cost. I am in the same boat and it’s about convenience and/or the loss of what we currently have. Netflix both raised prices and reduced what you get.

Yeah, it's not a matter of angry feelings, it's just a cost-benefit analysis

I'm guessing they aren't actually going to put this into action in the USA, but we'll see how it goes

I'd personally be fine with paying for 5 different streaming video services, but my wife is too frugal and makes me cancel one when I start another.. presumably a lot of people are in the same boat, and would look at this as a good opportunity to try out Disney+, HBO Max, etc

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Post by genewitch »

watwut wrote: post #660
alexdunmow wrote: post #27

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Interesting you say that the content doesn't appeal to you anymore. I feel the same way. My observation is that, for the most part, most of Netflix's original content is reality TV and comedy specials. They don't even seem to be bothering to create great content like Stranger Things anymore. We are at the enshittification of Netflix stage.

I have seen a single reality TV on Netlix. It is just not recommending them to me.

Cold case files, the first 48, unsolved mysteries, any cooking show - "reality TV" is a huge market. It's not all toddlers and tiaras and big brother, those were just the "huge, impossible to ignore" ones.

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Post by gnicholas »

taeric wrote: post #771
gnicholas wrote: post #752

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to a dictionary, "household" means: > those who dwell under the same roof and compose a family; also: a social unit composed of those living together in the same dwelling [1] It seems more focused on the family unit rather than where they're located. If a household goes on vacation, are they not still a household when they are at their hotel? Why is it different if they're at a condo, which they own? Disclo…

I'm curious how you read that and don't see the words "roof" and "same dwelling"? Because... that seems far more focused on where they are located than not? Only thing it is excluding is multiple family units all living in a shared building are not one household.

Oh, I absolutely see that limitation. But as I mentioned in my example, a "household" does not cease to exist when it leaves that shared roof. The group is defined based on where they live, regardless of whether they are together at any given moment, or if they are under a different roof together (and whether that different roof is part of a hotel, condo, or vacation home).

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Post by gnicholas »

jeroen wrote: post #678
anonymousiam wrote: post #667

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I've got two houses across two states where any one us (four) can be at any time. If they start blocking based on IP geo-location, I'll drop them immediately.

I don’t have a static ip-address. I am curious to see how they will deal with that.

Perhaps you have to designate a primary device, and then any of the secondary devices that access from the same IP can migrate for X weeks/months before having to be on the same IP as the primary?

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Post by hinkley »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #408
hinkley wrote: post #245

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I really wish YouTube allowed 1.10 playback speed. It’s just fast enough to save you some real time on long video series, but slow enough that you can still absorb difficult subjects. Even slow talkers become fast talkers on 1.25 speed. 1.10 is perfect for most audiobooks.

Honest suggestion, try getting used to listening to things at faster speeds. I started listening to podcasts at increasingly faster speeds, going from 1.1 to 1.2 and slowly increasing it. It only took a few days to a week of listening to slightly-too-fast-for-comfort content before it started sounding normal and I could bump it up again. Now the slowest I listen to is at 1.5 (going up to 1.6 or even 1.8 for my "fille…

So rather than using 1.10 - which doesn't exist - I should get to 1.25... by using 1.10 and ramping up?

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Post by matthew9219 »

HeavyStorm wrote: post #705
ho_schi wrote: post #569

Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…

TBH, I know of a lot of people sharing beyond their family...

I know a lot of people on "family" cell phone plans beyond their family. Doesn't seem to bother Verizon.

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Post by Firmwarrior »

mrweasel wrote: post #338
alexdunmow wrote: post #27

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Interesting you say that the content doesn't appeal to you anymore. I feel the same way. My observation is that, for the most part, most of Netflix's original content is reality TV and comedy specials. They don't even seem to be bothering to create great content like Stranger Things anymore. We are at the enshittification of Netflix stage.

To me it seems like Netflix is struggling to attract good script writers. Their productions are beautiful, but the scripts are terrible.

that's pretty much every script in Hollywood.. they hand out writing jobs via nepotism rather than merit

That's why your average nigh-unreadable dogpoo novel off the bargain bin has writing on par with an excellent TV show or movie

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Post by BowBun »

> “In Canada, which we believe is a reliable predictor for the US, our paid membership base is now larger than prior to the launch of paid sharing and revenue growth has accelerated and is now growing faster than in the US,” Netflix said.

Seems like it's going according to their plan. People are free to cancel, but it looks like they ran the numbers and people are willing to pay.

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