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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by nailer »

amrocha wrote: post #263
nailer wrote: post #176

Hrm I’m not sure this is the hypocrisy HN thinks it is. Musk wanted to stop biased moderation. He’s done so. He wanted what twitter has done previously in terms of biased moderation to be public. He’s done so. He wanted journalists to be under the same rules as other content creators. He’s done so. Is he obliged to let people promote competitors on Twitter?

If it was just a ban strictly on competitors then it would just be pathetic, but it's more than that. This is a ban on advertising an online presence outside of Twitter, which makes the platform way less attractive to anyone who uses it as a secondary platform, as a way to communicate with followers, while mostly monetizing another platform (Instagram or FB for example). Now that they've done this, there's no guarant…

> This is a ban on advertising an online presence outside of Twitter, which makes the platform way less attractive to anyone who uses it as a secondary platform

Reading the page it was a ban on empty accounts, ie a block on accounts that are "Follow me as @mike on instagram" or whatever.

Nevermind though, the policy is now reversed and Elon has apologised.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by zmibes »

ceejayoz wrote: post #582
zmibes wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any non-abserd definition of free speech concerns the expression of ideas rather than allowing hyperlinks to competitor platforms. I don't see this as a violation of free speech at all

You're bending over backwards so far you've become a Klein bottle.

Good one

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by seydor »

gtaylor wrote: post #713
seydor wrote: post #313

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aren't they a private company anyway? To claim that they have a dominant position is very ovestated. Twitter is no bigger than reddit.

Twitter is a good deal bigger than reddit. At least pre-Elon. 200MM+ DAU vs 50MM+.

This says they are comparable in # monthly MAUs

https://www.statista.com/statistics/272014/global-social-net...

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by greggarious »

eternalban wrote: post #722
greggarious wrote: post #705

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> Watergate. Fair point, my bad -- I'm a millennial, that's before my time, I'm giving my thoughts as someone who became old enough to stop violating COPPA around "Indecision 2000". > Also my impression has been that NYTimes definitely does geopolitics - Earth laughably and famously turned "flat" in NYTimes editorial pages My impression was WaPo is run by the CIA, and NYT is run by like, at least nine eyes[1]. (With…

archive.is - ft, wsj, foreign affairs. Have at it! FA has specially good fare, in fact, well worth the visit to the archives. p.s. just read the whole thing. When did I conflate? Some do however reasonably point out that power comes out of the barrel of a gun and you need money for guns ..

>archive.is - ft, wsj, foreign affairs. Have at it! FA has specially good fare, in fact, well worth the visit to the archives.

Thanks, I'll use this.

>p.s. just read the whole thing. When did I conflate?

I'm just making conversation, it's not intended to be a debate where either side is going to be "correct" :-)

Both NYT and WaPo fail to allow true lateral thinking on their pages except for "special occasions".

>Some do however reasonably point out that power comes out of the barrel of a gun and you need money for guns ...

Power does come from the barrel of a gun, in a way, but people don't like to feel coerced. If you kill someone, their children, their parents, and their friends will be your enemies for life.

Real ultimate power comes from having untracable, encrypted communications paired with an opaque social graph, so your opponents won't know who to use that gun on other than themselves to end their sadness.

Anyways, we're far from where we started... thanks for the archive link... I will definitely use it.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by drdaeman »

manderley wrote: post #436
drdaeman wrote: post #170

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Honestly, this. I wasn't expecting much but was hoping that at least Elon has some unorthodox idea to try. What he promised wasn't supposed to work, but no matter who he is and what he believes in, I had to give him some respect - dude had actually put his money (lawsuit or not) where his mouth was, and that's a commendable thing. Except that... I really don't like roasting people - that's just faux pas, so I'll rath…

We have to "commend" him for saying that he wanted to buy Twitter and then (after some legal troubles) following through? Why?

No, don't get me wrong please. I said that it is my personal belief that if someone puts their money where their mouth is, it's a commendable thing. Like, in general. But I haven't said that anyone else should hold this belief or specifically hold it towards Elon.

In his case, I totally agree that backpedaling hard doesn't really makes him look good. Still, personally, at the time, I was still thinking "well, okay, he paid for it, that's something I can respect, he told some intriguing promises, let's see what he does what he bought", giving him a benefit of doubt.

And then I've said that I fail to see any consistency between his words and actions. Basically, "I used to think he'd try something interesting and I'm disappointed that I don't see it".

That's about it. I most certainly did not mean to endorse him, or anything like that. Just echoed a disappointment and shared an anecdote - what I used to think and what I think today. Sorry if that sounded weird.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by BryantD »

dr_kiszonka wrote: post #736
haxiomic wrote: post #84

Let’s help people get off this ship Tools to migrate to mastodon: Archive your data and repost to mastodon: https://twitter.com/settings/download_your_data https://github.com/FGRibreau/import-tweets-to-mastodon Find accounts you follow on mastodon: Browser Extension - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mastodon-handles-i... Using API - https://debirdify.pruvisto.org/ (thanks @guerrilla) - https://www.movetodon…

Thanks for the links! Do you know if it is possible to subscribe (?) to two Mastodon servers at once? Say I am at a San Francisco server but also want to see what people post on an LA server, is there a straight forward way to do that or do I need to maintain two separate accounts on both servers?

Some clients allow for this. I use Toot on iOS and I can swipe to get to the local timelines I’ve configured, as if they were another account for me.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by nailer »

mastercheif wrote: post #409
zmibes wrote: post #231

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Any non-abserd definition of free speech concerns the expression of ideas rather than allowing hyperlinks to competitor platforms. I don't see this as a violation of free speech at all

Bookmarking this comment to remind myself in the future how far people will twist their logic to fit their narrative. Thank you for making this so clear for me.

The issue was very clearly ideological bias. I think there’s a bunch of people twisting the narrative to be about commercial promotion.
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