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It seems almost inevitable it will go the way of Tumblr, Friendster, Hi5, Bebo, MySpace, Orkut, Google+ and soon Facebook. Social networks don't have a particularly long life expectancy.

4chan is doing good

4Chan might be doing well, but most of the time they're definitely not doing good.

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The most bizarre aspect of this was when Twitter engineers were told to print out their code on paper. There is literally no good reason to do that. At best it is staggering incompetence. At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test.

The text messages that were published as part of the suit to close the acquisition showed Musk discussing "return to office" as a way to naturally trim some of the workforce by having the dissatisfied remote workers quit on their own. My take on the paper printing is that it is a similar strategy to get people to quit by themselves, because they think it's stupid.

Do you think the trimming will apply to all levels of performance? Will it push out the poor performers, the high performers, or just take out a random cross section?

Is there a correlation between employees who like to avoid the office and employees you don’t really want on the team any more?

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I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

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I once reviewed code for a company that got purchased. I took less than a few hours to reach conclusion. There were 7 developers and in 2 months only one was writing code. The entire team but that one developer was fired. Twitter has grown a reputation for being slow and a rest and vest haven. Won't be surprised if they are looking for people not writing code. On a different note, If you're in a large org and all you…

why do you need a code review for this ? It is easily scriptable w/ GH, and I would expect whatever system used by twitter to support this kind of basic functionalities.

I'd be very interested in such scripts, do you have links?

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I once reviewed code for a company that got purchased. I took less than a few hours to reach conclusion. There were 7 developers and in 2 months only one was writing code. The entire team but that one developer was fired. Twitter has grown a reputation for being slow and a rest and vest haven. Won't be surprised if they are looking for people not writing code. On a different note, If you're in a large org and all you…

> I once reviewed code for a company that got purchased. I took less than a few hours to reach conclusion. There were 7 developers and in 2 months only one was writing code. The entire team but that one developer was fired. Larry Ellison famously once said "if you aren't a developer, and you aren't a salesman, then tell me real slow just what it is you do".

This is just the prelude to an apocryphal story. At the end of that story, Oracle stops innovating and becomes a legal and license auditing firm with sales and engineering departments bolted onto the side, slowing atrophying into the sunset.

;)

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I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

You'd arguably have a case that Musk is not acting in the interest of Tesla and is using his Tesla position to enrich himself rather than the Tesla company. Exactly what the "CEO is supposed to serve shareholders" is all about.

He’s doing the reverse with SpaceX employees, so it’s a net win.

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All of this is so funny in general. It seems possible that Twitter might go the way of Tumblr in that goofy policy changes alienate the core userbase. I couldn’t imagine betting billions of dollars on a property that could basically just become a valuable-ish domain in the future.

Slight difference: Tumblr's core userbase were edgy teenagers and porn consumers, Twitter's core userbase appears to be press people, marketing professionals, celebrities and politicians. I think this userbase will be less inclined to just move on to Mastodon and more to make demands to Musk instead.

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If someone completely new to my codebase came along and tried to evaluate my code I'd laugh. You can't jump in and "evaluate" without knowing context and being familiar with the features.

What’s more funny is how people commonly believe like this their code is so special or different than everyone else’s. Reverse engineering a large code base is not anywhere as hard as most software engineers somehow believe. I was tasked with analyzing a large code base from a company that my employer had been an investor in and as part of their investment had been given IP rights, the company employees were floored…

I think it is not about code being special.

It is about coming up with BS false positives, pointing them out and saying this code is crap.

Of course if someone is professional and understands there was different context and all you have is code and writes down false positives and discusses them it is OK.

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post #763

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once reviewed code for a company that got purchased. I took less than a few hours to reach conclusion. There were 7 developers and in 2 months only one was writing code. The entire team but that one developer was fired. Twitter has grown a reputation for being slow and a rest and vest haven. Won't be surprised if they are looking for people not writing code. On a different note, If you're in a large org and all you…

> I once reviewed code for a company that got purchased. I took less than a few hours to reach conclusion. There were 7 developers and in 2 months only one was writing code. The entire team but that one developer was fired. Larry Ellison famously once said "if you aren't a developer, and you aren't a salesman, then tell me real slow just what it is you do".

And yet we have people whose job is to help software getting deployed, infrastructures getting the timely upgrades, capacity planning, monitoring and alerting, honing their troubleshooting skills so when time comes to save your business they know how to do it and have the right tools not break in their face.

Yes, let's treat those tasks as less honourable than developers and enjoy the results

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Surprised how sceptical all the comments here are. Dick or not the guy has a talent for building companies

Can you elaborate on this argument? I don't really understand his companies as "well built" in any reasonable sense that I can identify. "His companies make him and many of his investors wealthy" sure, no disagreement from me. But "well built" is a different metric, and I think that's highly arguable.

>I don't really understand his companies as "well built" in any reasonable sense that I can identify.

I didn't say well built despite your quotation marks. But close enough...what I meant is that he has two big companies doing impressive things.

e.g. I don't see anyone else regularly flying to the ISS

Maybe the companies are a toxic chaotic shitshow on the inside, I don't know, but from afar he seems to have done well with both Tesla and spaceX

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