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Post by RedBeetDeadpool »

salmo wrote: post #714
RedBeetDeadpool wrote: post #700

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Twitter’s already headed down the uncool social media curve like Facebook before it. There will be an exodus, but it would have happened either way. Once the parents get on, it starts the decline. When the grandparents are there… The “political” polarization is part of it. The older folks bring it with them. The majority flock to sites for information and escapism. The back and forth is just exhausting. It’s clearer…

How you said it:

> Twitter’s already headed down the uncool social media curve like Facebook before it. There will be an exodus, but it would have happened either way. Once the parents get on, it starts the decline. When the grandparents are there…

> The “political” polarization is part of it. The older folks bring it with them. The majority flock to sites for information and escapism. The back and forth is just exhausting.

> It’s clearer for geek sites. Slashdot died when it got corporate and the content went to crap. Digg was the same. Reddit’s in process except niches. It’ll be same here.

> For everything there is a season.

What you sound like:

Yes and there shall be an exodus from the Twitters.

The parents shall come in, then the grandparents shall follow. Once those generations arrive the decline shall start. Not before. Not long after. But right after the grandparents, whence they arrive.

The polarization shall induce the decline. This wrought on by the older generations. And this is when the majority shall flock to sites for information and escapism.

Just as Slashdot, and Digg, declined before it, so shall the Twitters decline as well.

For everything, there is a season.

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With your prescience, you must be a billionaire. Why don't you just buy Twitter off of Elon?

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Post by erikpukinskis »

planetsprite wrote: post #768

As much as people dislike Musk, he draws excitement and captivation not only to himself, but to whatever he touches. Now for the first time people actually care about the "future" of Twitter, or in a sense, have a vision for its future that isn't defined by its frequent moderation-related controversies. Is Musk's financial success and unparalleled cultural relevance a science that can be replicated? I mean, as much a…

* rapid, consistent posting cadence

* try audacious things and don’t give up

* aggressively, rudely shut down everything around you that’s not contributing to your audacious goal

* spend 80 hours a week working ferociously

… so, if that’s something you can do, it’s replicable

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Post by tyrust »

xwowsersx wrote: post #685
dathinab wrote: post #376

I always find it strange when he positions himself as pro-democratic and pro-freedom when his actions say pretty much the opposite: He is pushing for a political system/values which: - doubles down on money == power, to a point where only money is power - uses pretext of "freedom" to remove protections which limit in how much companies can abuse people, mainly in forms which move money from them to the companies. But…

> doubles down on money power, to a point where only money is power What has he said or done that indicates he is pushing for such a system? Are you suggesting the mere fact of his purchasing a company and being a billionaire means he is pushing for such a system or was there something else he said or did? I'm asking genuinely because I may very well have missed some important news item or other piece of information.…

Everyone who signs up for Twitter Blue (ie pays $3/month) should get an authentication checkmark

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 10, 2022

He has since deleted the Tweet, but it is an indicator of how out of touch he is when it comes to providing a free and equitable platform.

https://euronewsweek.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-hints-at-paid-twit...

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Post by notfromhere »

kjksf wrote: post #684
JasserInicide wrote: post #649

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk is going to discover (and maybe admit?) that fixing Twitter is harder than he thought. Yeah I think he's going to intensely focus on Twitter for ~6 months, not change much, get bored, and then move onto something else.

The way he got bored running Tesla and SpaceX for ~20 years? I really don't get where this meme of "impulsive, erratic, hotheaded Musk" comes from given he demonstrated ability to stick with a business in the toughest of times. Tesla was literally days away from bankruptcy at one time and Musk made it work. After first 3 failed launches he was about to run out of money and yet he financed another launch, which worked…

People have Dorsey a lot of shit for being part time CEO of Twitter and Square. Not sure how an even more split CEO is supposed to make things better

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Post by tyrust »

RedBeetDeadpool wrote: post #718
xwowsersx wrote: post #685

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> doubles down on money power, to a point where only money is power What has he said or done that indicates he is pushing for such a system? Are you suggesting the mere fact of his purchasing a company and being a billionaire means he is pushing for such a system or was there something else he said or did? I'm asking genuinely because I may very well have missed some important news item or other piece of information.…

Looks like you were downvoted ... no response. You know what that means.

> Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by biscottigelato »

GMoromisato wrote: post #692
JasserInicide wrote: post #649

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Musk is going to discover (and maybe admit?) that fixing Twitter is harder than he thought. Yeah I think he's going to intensely focus on Twitter for ~6 months, not change much, get bored, and then move onto something else.

Maybe. He hasn't given up on self-driving after it turned out to be much harder than he thought. He's still pouring money and time into it. And he hasn't given up on Starlink, even though it is not nearly as profitable as he hoped originally. He's just launching more satellites. And he hasn't given up on Starship even though it is years late. He's doubling down on its development. But I conceded that he might not see…

People just don't know Musk. Falcon Heavy was delayed for 8 years. It took 8 years longer. He still got it to work. With all 3 rockets landing simultaneously at the same time.

SpaceX also beat Boeing with a smaller budget (NASA gave more to Boeing) in sending astronauts to the ISS. Boeing still is not able to get a successful test launch 2 years after SpaceX got the first astronauts to ISS from US domestic soil.

Then there's Tesla, where the Model Y, despite being double the price of a Corolla, outsold the Corolla - https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/10/tesla-model-y-passing-...

If you can stumble into so many achievements by luck. Or just by oh, lean on a few Shotwells and engineers.... then why are companies like Meta and Snap etc in the trash bin? Why is Boeing still stuck on the ground? Why after a half a decade of Tesla killers than nobody is getting killed but legacy automakers (all declining revenue and deliveries).

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Post by firecall »

thinkingemote wrote: post #248

They need to re-free up the API. Early adopters and hackers really did some great work using the API until they walled-gardened it and rate limited it to make it unusable. They need to do this for goodwill at the very least, but I think it will spark the fire to make it popular with techies again. Based on the recently published discovery chats we will probably see: * High def video * Focus on music publication * The…

With regards to the API, they shut it down because there were people building apps with the stated intention of taking users from twitter and building their own platform.

I’m on my phone and don’t have a source handy, but it was a serious enough concern to force Twitter to do what they did to the API!

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Post by jjguy »

GMoromisato wrote: post #582

My predictions: 1. Musk is going to discover (and maybe admit?) that fixing Twitter is harder than he thought. It will be just like self-driving, which seems straightforward, but which actually has thousands of edge cases which are hard to solve with a single general system. Nevertheless, he will persist, because that's what he does. 2. Current Twitter makes a profit on advertising, which means Twitter needs to encou…

With respect to the name “X” - I’ll bet he revives the OG x.com brand - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.com

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Post by ohmyzee »

julianeon wrote: post #57

In the spirit of trying to be high-information and add value: Where Musk is going, there are no maps. So it's very very hard to project. But we can predict likely developments. At a very high level, it's going to involve: bringing back controversial personalities like Donald Trump; increasing Twitter's commitment to 'free speech'; assuaging skittish advertisers; retaining users who might be concerned, while bringing…

There was talk of him using crypto currency as a way of disincentivizing bots. Not sure how well thought out the ideas were, but there might well be some interesting integrations with crypto on the platform
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