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Google Search Is Dying

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Re: Google Search Is Dying

#772

I identify with this so much. I use a range of search engines to fulfill specific needs. Examples below. * Google - shopping, consumer oriented, up-to-date local content on restaurants and venues * Google reddit - product reviews, product issues, programming, local "issues" * Kagi - for informational, programming help, research, politics, anything controversial * Bing - for video Google is absolutely terrible for any…

>Kagi

I looked into this, but you have to sign up for an invite, and they first demand you give them a bunch of information. I bailed at the second question. "what do you want in a search engine". How about not making me answer questions to use it?

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#773

Google used to be really, really good at finding exactly what I told it to find. Nowadays, it's turned into the yellow pages; sponsored content from businesses trying to sell me goods and services. Can people suggest good alternatives or search patterns for certain categories of information or search types? Some of the search patterns I currently I use: * Youtube for product reviews and demos, entertainment, music an…

In my experience, the forum experience is far from dead, but it's effectively impossible to surface in a search engine - any search engine - unless you know the name of the forum. Oh, and the content must also be "fresh". If the content isn't "fresh" (which most of the best forum/blog posts are not), nobody shows it anymore. I can search for a specific blog post using a verbatim quote, but the result (if it exists) i…

So frustrating to find background Information to a big current event. Google will aggressively show the same news articles over and over.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#776

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is the most annoying behavior because I really mean what I write. Tons of people don't, though. They type whatever unprocessed half-second thought they have into Google and expect Google to lead them to the water, even if they're tugging and trying to go in the completely wrong direction. Google has optimized for working 'most of the time' for 'the most people', and that means striving for fixing the complete…

I honestly find it pretty helpful. You can type "russian murder painting" into Google and it will come up with Ivan the Terrible and His Son. All that hinting may be annoying if you know exactly what you wanted, but I'm not a specialist in everything I ever search for.

What would be nice is if you could toggle this behaviour. Sometimes I know exactly what I'm looking for, sometimes I don't. Assuming I never do is at least as silly as assuming I always do. Just give me the option.

I am frankly baffled that after all this focus on "personalised search", they still don't actually allow you to personalise your search like that.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#777
What if it's not google results that suck, what if it's the internet? Reddit is (in theory) what we wish the internet still was: a bunch of loose communities with people sharing and discussing content, both original and not. The internet at large has become primarily different forms of ads. There was a time when the internet was littered with ads in popups, then they became banners on the side, now they are the content itself.

It's feels silly to wish there could be an open version of reddit because that's what the internet is. It's just that there's so much noise now that it's impossible to find the signal. At one time google was that filter to find the diamonds in the rough. But now they have no incentive to filter that stuff out, because 9/10 times, the rough is THEIR ads. We need a new filter that's not funded by advertising.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#778

Although I don't use Reddit that much I must say Reddit is diamond in the rough; communities are super helpful and unlike Facebook it is not walled garden plus you don't have to use your real name. It still needs work and improvement but I really like Reddit.

reddit is absolutely a walled garden. They'll instaban you for wrongthink at the drop of a hat. Powermods will ban you from many subs for participating in one they think is guilty of wrongthink. And if you create multiple accounts ('throwaways' are encouraged in many subs) but then fail to track which subs have banned you which of your accounts for wrongthink reddit will ban all of your accounts for "ban evasion" even though their own help page tells you how to copy subs from one account to another: https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/205243365--How-...

And most subs won't let you talk on a new or low karma account.

Peak reddit was 2015. Giving moderators the power to lock posts was a sign of authoritarianism to come and it's only gotten much worse.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#779
I posted around 3 years ago how Google search results had become extremely unreliable. Searching for thugs like “Reddit best hand mixer” and setting the date filter to be for example “last year” would give me results from 8 years ago. This wasn’t exclusive to Reddit. Plus this used to work perfectly fine around 4 years ago. I remember when it stopped working.

Also programming related searches have now started giving me results of random shady websites which are copying results from stackoverflow and Google puts them at the top for some reason.

Re: Google Search Is Dying

#780

I remember being on a call with the Bebo people like 2 days after that absurd buyout and asking sarcastically: “So what color is the Ferrari?” The answer: “Yellow”. Now you have the Battery. Reddit is so friggin user-hostile that I don’t read most of the comments anymore: because I literally can’t. You can do a little browsing but the minute you’re trying to pay actual attention you get slammed with the dark patterns…

The current admins are so deep in the authleft cult that ousting them is the only way to save the site.
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